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  1. #11
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    Katlyna's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sollux View Post
    Seems awfully familiar.... http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3693052

    This rotation was born a few months ago out of equal parts impatience and laziness after I got tired of 40+ step synths. I can confirm that it was roughly around 930 Craftsmanship that I could complete the new 3-Stars with this rotation, and I have a few other tips as well:
    Cool we came up with the exact same conclusion lol. This isn't the first time I've posted this rotation. Just the first time I gave it a top post. First time I put it in these forums was http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3616986 And somewhat earlier in our private Terra forums.

    None the less I'm not surprised we came to the same conclusion during roughly the same timeframe. The top end crafters often do! Yuliani and I developed ours through a long discord discussion trying to figure out how to give our FC a better way to make raid food, faster, easier and with lower requirements.

    Your tips and adjustments are spot on Sollux as always. I have some of those adjustments myself. I often lock all of my macros to 3 seconds because I previously had some lag issues (which I've since fixed) none the less with all the sharing I do of my macros I prefer them to be partially lag safe.
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    I have a question about including the Byregot's Brow. It has only 70% success rate, the same as Basic Touch has, and I am nearly sure that I have had Basic and Precise Touches fail with Steady Hand II. Up to writing this I was fully sure but now I am doubting a bit, maybe I don't recall well and it is under Steady Hand. (I was editing this before reading the answer in next post ) : )

    So, what would it be worse, having the chance of a Byregot's Blessing with poor condition or having a Byregot's Brow fail? I don't know what chances you have of each case. Having the Byregot's brow fail is a worse case than having a Byregot's Blessing with poor condition.

    It seems too better to put the Ingenuity II before the Byregot's Blessing, all Careful Synthesis II will be covered too. Byregot's Blessing will have better effect under Ingenuity II if I am not mistaken. Somebody did that in proposed rotations some posts before this.
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    Last edited by JonBigwood; 08-27-2016 at 09:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonBigwood View Post
    I have a question about including the Byregot's Brow. It has only 70% succes rate, so even under Steady Hand II there is still a chance that it will fail. I am sure you all have had basic touchs fail under Steady Hand II, and it has 70% success rate. (I am surprised every time it has happened to me, but it is not a thing that cannot happen.)
    I am not going to address the rest of your question, but I will say that I have NEVER had a Basic Touch fail under Steady Hand 2. Are you sure that those times you've had it fail, you didn't have Steady Hand up instead of Steady Hand 2? That is the only thing I can think of for you having had BT fail with some SH - 1 or 2 - up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonBigwood View Post
    I have a question about including the Byregot's Brow. It has only 70% success rate, the same as Basic Touch has, and I am nearly sure that I have had Basic and Precise Touches fail with Steady Hand II.
    I've crafted a bazillion items and never had Basic, Brow or Precise file with Steady Hand II. They all have 70% success rate, while Steady Hand II provides a 30% bonus. As Rath said you probably had Steady Hand (I) up instead. I have done this due to CP requirements while testing out new things and had failures. Just have to watch your states carefully and be aware of the risk you are taking in various actions when using steady hand II vs I.

    So no you don't want to change the ordering of this. I will note that if manually executing Byregots Blessing under normal status with Greater Strides is a x2 bonus overall, while Byregot's Brow under good status WITHOUT Greater Strikes is only a 1.5 bonus overall. This can make a notable difference, but does NOT affect this particular macro since we are using Ingenuity II. This is why for macro work its often ideal to use one which makes good use of Ingenuity or Innovation after greater strides (with a Byregot's Brow inbetween for "poor" state protection.
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    Good job op, personally I use macros only for NQs, but this is exactly the rotation I have been using since the eikon gear was released. It works really well.

    It's been perfect for while, but with the new gear it is possible to use Ingenuity I instead -saving enough CP to use two Precise/Basic Touches. Of course that's for manual crafting so idk what could you use the additional CP on in the macro
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    The main reason why the Party Finder is not working for the harder content and so many groups disband after few wipes is caused by the players who ignore the comments.

    Getting to the phase XYZ once does not mean you are ready to join parties to do XYZ.

    Parties should spend most of the time doing the phase that is written in the comment not trying to get there.

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