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  1. #1
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    The_Last_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Renabi Rena
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 90

    Thank goodness for Moogle Quests

    I held out on making this initially since I needed to make sure there wasn't some quest that I wasn't getting in the rotation, but I've almost hit 60 now in lv50 weaver gear and am still breezing through the beast quests. For those who don't remember, or simply never experienced it, Ixal had two quests in Coerthas that were next to impossible if you weren't sporting the best gear and didn't already have all of your crafters maxed due to the CP restrictions it placed on your character. The horror stories of players crafting non-stop for anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours for a single beast quest every day was staggering. The only saving grace is that you could switch your class before you turn it in, which allowed you to essentially level up a crafting class which you never used to craft anything with.

    The Moogle quests on the other hand, actually require you to gear up and use those classes, which is a good thing, without overburdening the player with excessive difficulty at getting an HQ item. It's nice to see that these quests are serving the purpose of getting players who don't normally craft, to do so, and without all of the frustration.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Huh? 30 minutes to two hours for an ixal quest...?

    The coerthas CP restriction was a mild annoyance at best, though I could see it being kind of difficult if you didn't have steady hand 2 and hasty touch?

    Don't mean to sound rude I'm just a bit baffled, as I had literally never heard of anyone having trouble with ixal quests before.

    It is nice that those mildly annoying debuffs aren't in the moogle quests though, I will agree there.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 06-29-2016 at 09:21 AM.

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    Causality's Avatar
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    Nutritious Delicious
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    The coerthas CP restriction was a mild annoyance at best, though I could see it being kind of difficult if you didn't have steady hand 2 and hasty touch?

    Don't mean to sound rude I'm just a bit baffled, as I had literally never heard of anyone having trouble with ixal quests before.

    There were a couple things with the Ixal Quests that vexed a lot of entry level Crafters namely it boiled down to a single quest 'A High Wind in Ishgard' (Detailing II debuff Which 'Lowers' but really makes the recipe equal to your level and reduces CP by 150). This quest Requires you construct 3 HQ Isolator Components at Difficulty 63 Quality 866. The problem is the Detailing II debuff reduces your CP by 150. So take into account a fresh crafter getting this quest. They might have around 200-250 CP maybe. That's assuming they even have any level 50 accessories and its highly doubtful they are melded. In perspective all BIS Accessories unmelded give 314 CP. With the low control of Patrician (even HQ) and the one non HQ class piece your quest reward gives. hitting 866 is pretty much impossible without any cross class skills. At most a non-culinarian might hit 50% if they have a good every other round.

    In essence this recipe with the restriction more or less makes it a 1 Star recipe if you are tackling it at level 50.

    Until you hit level 50, however, Its not too bad but still very hard without cross skills.
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    Last edited by Causality; 06-29-2016 at 10:35 AM. Reason: Character limit Boss

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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Well some of the crafts for Ixal are a absolute annoyance, failing multiple times to HQ. So glad i max ranked with time a while back, haha
    Have been going back to them for IV Materia as rewards, and i now know why i stopped doing them...
    Mog on the other hand is so very easy and i am also glad for them, very good exp for someone like myself who does not like to craft all that much
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    Stouter Taru
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Some of the Ixali synths took actual effort even with top gear at the time. I haven't had a moogle synth take more than 6 steps, and those are rare.
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    IMO, the Moogle quests are too easy. I totally understand not having them quite as complicated as the Ixali, but I think they took the easiness a bit too far. I could see them not doing the debuffs like Ixali had, but I'm very surprised that most of the Moogle items don't have to be HQ.

    They are fun though. I'm in love with the fact that SE did not add gathering quests. I just dread when I get the gathering Ixali quests and I have to sit and try to get the snow fish, or run around endlessly trying to get that last hidden mining/botany item.
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  7. #7
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Causality View Post
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    I remember that one, though I don't recall ever having a problem with it I did always stay up to date on my accessories so that may be why. Still though, I was in a really large FC at the time and never heard of anyone asking for help on it so it must have just been low levels who were having problems (which I definitely understand).
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 90
    compared with Ixali's quest, Moogle quest only need 1-2 step for NQ and 2-3 step for HQ lol.
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Brynhildr
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    I had a Lv30ish weaver at the start of this patch and didn't really feel like leveling it. But I really, really want that mount. So I was powerleveling it with the Ixal quests and my FC had to put up with me complaining about the High Wind in Ishgard quest. I got it every single day. The responses ranged from, "That kinda sorta rings a bell." to "I have no idea what you're talking about." Then I asked if the moogles have a glove and everyone chimed in about how much they hated that damn thing.
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 100
    Moogle quests are pretty nice. Ixali quests were absolutely pain! I must say, that the moogles are the best new beast tribe at the moment. High rewards, not that time consuming and kind of fun ^^.
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