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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
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    I've been talking about stat weights since the first post.

    You have this annoying habit of describing the current meta as if I don't know it. I know what it is; that's why I'm saying SE needs to change it. The issue isn't the healers are doing DPS; the issue is that healer's doing DPS is so valuable that their secondary stat priority matches the ranged casters. SE could bake a hit cap into Cleric Stance and fix the issue overnight without affecting how healers manage their DPS in groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destous View Post
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    And you've been ignoring my question of why is this such a bother to you? Are you running a market on accuracy materia and can't meet demand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    And you've been ignoring my question of why is this such a bother to you? Are you running a market on accuracy materia and can't meet demand?
    They've been ignoring a lot more than that. To the point where it's not worth replying anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    They've been ignoring a lot more than that. To the point where it's not worth replying anymore.
    Yeah... I'm starting to see why you stopped bothering. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    And you've been ignoring my question of why is this such a bother to you? Are you running a market on accuracy materia and can't meet demand?
    Dial down the angst a bit. It's not a bother to me. The point was to discuss the stat weights of healers and that they've shifted to far towards a DPS focus. My argument of healers focusing on accuracy, a purely offensive stat, for savage content is a good reason to suggest the stat weights are changed to reflect the purpose of the role.

    No one is saying healers shouldn't do DPS.
    No one is saying healers shouldn't currently meld accuracy.
    No one is saying any healer reading this thread should go out and pull all the accuracy out of the materia sockets just to make a statement.

    The point is discussing the stat weights of healers; and if you chime in with irrelevant jabs like "why is it such a bother to you" then yes, I'm going to ignore it.

    Quote Originally Posted by fm_fenrir View Post
    Healers should take a 30% HPS/DPS cut and have their stats "rebalanced"? That's literally what SE did to tanks to "stop" the tank DPS meta, and it didn't really even do that (because you still need tank DPS, it's just worse now).
    The hitcap should be baked into Cleric Stance, and healers shouldn't fumble around with accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destous View Post
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    Then why was that not what I got from your original post? And if they intend to balance accuracy the way you want them to (via altering Cleric Stance) then in that case, they may as well do that for tanks as well (100% accuracy in tank stance, dependent on accuracy stat in DPS stance), or instead, get rid of accuracy altogether and bring in new stats such as +5% heal potency if your mind is larger than x amount, or +10% attack speed if your spell speed is below x amount. If accuracy persists to remain a stat (entirely), then accuracy will remain within the meta. Nerfing accuracy altogether by affecting Cleric Stance is just a low blow in my opinion, and a cheap way of fixing this issue (even if it is a non-issue to some...).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Then why was that not what I got from your original post? And if they intend to balance accuracy the way you want them to (via altering Cleric Stance) then in that case, they may as well do that for tanks as well (100% accuracy in tank stance, dependent on accuracy stat in DPS stance), or instead, get rid of accuracy altogether and bring in new stats such as +5% heal potency if your mind is larger than x amount, or +10% attack speed if your spell speed is below x amount. If accuracy persists to remain a stat (entirely), then accuracy will remain within the meta. Nerfing accuracy altogether by affecting Cleric Stance is just a low blow in my opinion, and a cheap way of fixing this issue (even if it is a non-issue to some...).
    Accuracy to hit cap. Specific amount of skillspeed/spellspeed. As much crit/det as possible.

    Which class/role am I describing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destous View Post
    Accuracy to hit cap. Specific amount of skillspeed/spellspeed. As much crit/det as possible.

    Which class/role am I describing?
    Fisher?

    Yeah, definitely sounds like Fisher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destous View Post
    Accuracy to hit cap. Specific amount of skillspeed/spellspeed. As much crit/det as possible.

    Which class/role am I describing?
    That's literally all the classes. The game doesn't have enough stats for each class to specialize in one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    That's literally all the classes. The game doesn't have enough stats for each class to specialize in one...
    Congratulations, you found the point this time.
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