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    How about Wyvern's as mounts?

    In the live interview, Yoshi-P Said that active wyverns as pets would have to be balanced against the strength of the Dragoon as a job.

    However, it is already something he said that he would like battle ready mounts to aid in battle.

    So instead of balancing Wyvern's against the Dragoon's powers, how about offering Wyverns as an optional, battle-ready mount for Dragoon players to have?

    Considering in the live interview they displayed rough images of riding Drakes and Airman this doesn't seem to be a stretch, and it would make both those who would prefer powerful Dragoons and those who want the companionship of a pet Wyvern happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
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    Carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    In the live interview, Yoshi-P Said that active wyverns as pets would have to be balanced against the strength of the Dragoon as a job.

    However, it is already something he said that he would like battle ready mounts to aid in battle.

    So instead of balancing Wyvern's against the Dragoon's powers, how about offering Wyverns as an optional, battle-ready mount for Dragoon players to have?

    Considering in the live interview they displayed rough images of riding Drakes and Airman this doesn't seem to be a stretch, and it would make both those who would prefer powerful Dragoons and those who want the companionship of a pet Wyvern happy.

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    Though I shun the "battle alongside your wyvern" aspect like the plague, I wouldn't mind having it as a mount just to get around, although as I posted in the other thread, it could be a bit conflicting with the story. (Though seeing how they would consider giving you a wyvern pet anyway, I guess that really isn't an issue)
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    To be honest, I'm not a fan of the "Dragoon should be a pet class" (<-- understatement. Like eww, it makes no sense whatsoever to me >__>). So yeah, having a dragon-like mount and fighting alongside it when we will be able to fight with our mounts, YAY, going from pure DD class to pet class just to please former FFXI players who can't let go, effin' NAY >__>

    That's just my opinion, please don't hit me .__.
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    Is just doesn't make any what so ever sense to me either to have a dragoon having a dragon/wyvern pet. is totally ABSURD
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    I just want chocobos and magiteck as mounts... thankyou!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    I just want chocobos and magiteck as mounts... thankyou!
    Why limit it to two? I mean if we get to choose between them for our mounts, I can see Wyverns being a possibllility as well.

    Of course I'll be riding a Magitek armor. But If they're going to make mounts battle ready (which it seems they are at least with chocobos if the mockup is indicative of their goals) then it allows Wyvern fans to have their service while not harming the balance of the Dragoon itself.

    It'd be a compromise that adds to the depth of the game while filling demands of both sides of the debate. Having a Wyvern pet out wouldn't harm the player's output any more than having a chocobo out and fighting with you, and would be balanced on the same mechanics.

    From the player reactions, I don't see Dragoon getting Wyvern, and that doesn't bother me. But with Yoshi-p already in mind to make mounts capable to aid in battle, I don't see why this opportunity can't be capitalized upon to keep the base that wants to include Wyverns as part of their Dragoon's adventure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    Is just doesn't make any what so ever sense to me either to have a dragoon having a dragon/wyvern pet. is totally ABSURD
    Why is it absurd? It's part of Dragoon history.

    From FF Wikia:
    "In their first appearance, Dragoons are not a Job but a group of spear-wielding dragon riders who fought alongside wyverns. The Emperor killed off most of the group out of fear, leaving only Ricard Highwind and his adopted son, Kain."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Why limit it to two? I mean if we get to choose between them for our mounts, I can see Wyverns being a possibllility as well.

    Of course I'll be riding a Magitek armor. But If they're going to make mounts battle ready (which it seems they are at least with chocobos if the mockup is indicative of their goals) then it allows Wyvern fans to have their service while not harming the balance of the Dragoon itself.

    It'd be a compromise that adds to the depth of the game while filling demands of both sides of the debate. Having a Wyvern pet out wouldn't harm the player's output any more than having a chocobo out and fighting with you, and would be balanced on the same mechanics.

    From the player reactions, I don't see Dragoon getting Wyvern, and that doesn't bother me. But with Yoshi-p already in mind to make mounts capable to aid in battle, I don't see why this opportunity can't be capitalized upon to keep the base that wants to include Wyverns as part of their Dragoon's adventure.



    Why is it absurd? It's part of Dragoon history.

    From FF Wikia:
    "In their first appearance, Dragoons are not a Job but a group of spear-wielding dragon riders who fought alongside wyverns. The Emperor killed off most of the group out of fear, leaving only Ricard Highwind and his adopted son, Kain."
    I wouldn't be opposed to this position, provided it was simply a dragon/wyvern mount that acted in the same light as chocobo mounts. I do not, however want a pet to be a part of the job mechanic, which is the issue everyone has because that is what some are asking for.

    And TBH, using Final Fantasy "history" is a moot point considering the progression of their games. They generally don't stick with the same archetype throughout. If anything, it would be feasible for them to create a unique Dragoon, and not one dredged up from a past title. Which... is exactly what they're doing by making DRG the crit-based job of the game.
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    I agree with the first point, very highly disagree with the second.

    The traditional archetypes for FF actually are part of what defines it as a whole. White Mage has never been anything but a healer. Black Mage has never been anything but a Magical DD.

    The line only blurs on jobs that would be difficult to balance in an MMO enviroment, such as Red Mage, the Jack of All trades, and it's notoriously difficult role finding and balancing throughout FFXI's history. (And yet, FFXI developers just made a hard stance stating that no job but WHM will be receiving Cure V as cast-able white magic.) And job mechanics that would make no sense at all such as Samurai's "Gil Toss".

    Every other deviation of the series has pretty much been the players pulling the job themselves in an unforeseen direction, in the case of FFXI, or characters that really had no set 'role' as with some of the less job centric console Final Fantasies. All the job system iterations? They've been fairly spot on with their archtypes, they just vary depending on the world they're in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    In the live interview, Yoshi-P Said that active wyverns as pets would have to be balanced against the strength of the Dragoon as a job.

    However, it is already something he said that he would like battle ready mounts to aid in battle.

    So instead of balancing Wyvern's against the Dragoon's powers, how about offering Wyverns as an optional, battle-ready mount for Dragoon players to have?

    Considering in the live interview they displayed rough images of riding Drakes and Airman this doesn't seem to be a stretch, and it would make both those who would prefer powerful Dragoons and those who want the companionship of a pet Wyvern happy.

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    Pretty good idea... I like it. Lets send a letter to Yoshi or something.
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