PLD highest DPS tank single target

[Lambdafish]

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I agree with all of your points here. Whether it is fight design or it's skill set I still do feel that PLD is underappreciated, though that has improved since 3.0 (thordan and sephirot gave PLD a lot of love in the MT department). The only place I disagree slightly with is that PLD does need improvements to it's AOE toolkits, as it is extremely lackluster in comparison to the other tanks, with no obvious advantage in any other area of multi-target tanking, but that is my only complaint, and is something that we will not see addressed until 4.0 I don't think

[IskarJarak]

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I think the AoE (or lack thereof) is fine. Pld's are designed to be kings of single targets. Pld's can still hold hate with AoE fine, and a Whm can out dps dps on big AoE pulls and feel special... I think because of Pld's lack of AoE dps they should have higher single target dps tho. Even if it was something like ShO having the same auto attack buff as SwO... nothing drastic or game changing, just something to make up for the offensive abilities of the other two tanks.

[Lambdafish]

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PLD aren't the kings of single target though, in fact the other two are better at single target as well. I'm not asking for PLD to be stronger in that area, in fact they can still have the worst AOE of the three, but they need to have more AOE to even be considered ok. Not taking into consideration Flash (because it is cross class and also questionable in how good a skill it is) WAR has Overwhelm, Steel cyclone, and Decimate and DRK has Unleash, Salted Earth and Abyssal Drain. All of these skills are far better than PLDs ONLY unique AOE move, Circle of Scorn. I would happily trade in skills like awareness, tempered will and shield swipe in favor more AOE tanking skills.

[Kitfox]

I think the AoE (or lack thereof) is fine. Pld's are designed to be kings of single targets.

That is bad design when the 2 other tanks can do both. Tanks should be balanced, for single target they mostly are, for multi-target they aren't.

[Sarcatica]

I think the AoE (or lack thereof) is fine. Pld's are designed to be kings of single targets. Pld's can still hold hate with AoE fine, and a Whm can out dps dps on big AoE pulls and feel special... I think because of Pld's lack of AoE dps they should have higher single target dps tho. Even if it was something like ShO having the same auto attack buff as SwO... nothing drastic or game changing, just something to make up for the offensive abilities of the other two tanks.

"highest single target dps on PLD" will make PLD as the OT, and switcharounds on meta are going to be messy(DRK left out to dust, WAR as MT and PLD as OT), not to mention PLD is so easy to DPS with the static GB>RA>RA repeat. Also to add, PLD was supposed to be your most defensive tank which is really not true as any tank can clear any content just fine. If any, PLD needs huge utility buffs for teams to consider further whether to just get DRK or stick with PLD after clearing to do better DPS(PLD/MNK is great btw). Straight buffs to PLD's DPS is a very low approach and it's a lazy solution since DRK/WAR are much harder to effectively do DPS, thus DRK/WAR topping the optimal DPS should be natural.

AOE is a good enough concern that needs to be addressed sooner or later when you compare to other tanks. Flash doesn't do any damage, the more you do it the lower your DPS is (FoF also doesn't buff your enmity generation for Flash which sucks). Other tanks have more than 1 AOE damaging aggro skills, PLD only has 1.

TLDR: Paladin simply doesn't have to be on par with DRK/WAR in terms of DPS.

Is there any update from SE so far if they are going to re-tweak PLD again? At this point it might as well be PLD/MNK for learning/clearing and then DRK/DRG for weekly and for pushing DPS and time clears.

[MoarLegion]

The stacks even go out at different times, and you can use a single cooldown for multiple stacks.

I think you're forgetting about the disease which deals magic damage, which will OHKO you with magic vuln.

[Lyth]

I think you're forgetting about the disease which deals magic damage, which will OHKO you with magic vuln.

Nope. World second clear solo tanked the adds. Did it day 2 of release.

You just need to know when to pop your ultimate.

[Hammerhorn]

40 sec left over on the Nidhogg X SSS dummy with a 235 sword and shield curious what other Pallys are doin. Calculates to be 1200 dps , only clearing A5 savage atm.

[Sarcatica]

40 sec left over on the Nidhogg X SSS dummy with a 235 sword and shield curious what other Pallys are doin. Calculates to be 1200 dps , only clearing A5 savage atm.

Why aren't you doing A8S SSS? It's the only dummy that tests your rotation to the "limit" for the 3min mark.

[Hammerhorn]

cuz that dummy would require the A8 acc amount and it just has more HP id still kill it with the exact same parse just different clear time.