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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcatica View Post
    And again, contents outside raid don't have huge DPS checks, so play whatever you like and stop complaining especially to the people who have never raided seriously before. These people haven't tested the jobs to their limits and all they do is either complain or give their wrong opinions and they are so adamant about it, which seriously irks me so much tbh.
    Thank you!

    It is disheartening to like playing a low level paladin only to keep reading questionable statements about how no one wants to group with paladins at high levels because the other tanks can do much better damage. It affects my enjoyment of the class because who wants to put effort into leveling a job to 60 only to not be invited into any raids?

    It is of some consolation paladins will always be wanted for content outside raids, though.

    Personally, I believe the solution is to reestablish paladins as the damage mitigation tank. By that, I mean them having the best mitigation for all types of damage. Furthermore, the developers should make that matter.
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    Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 07-18-2016 at 03:33 PM. Reason: stoopid character limit

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    Nomi Malaguld
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Personally, I believe the solution is to reestablish paladins as the damage mitigation tank. By that, I mean them having the best mitigation for all types of damage. Furthermore, the developers should make that matter.
    Agreed. Paladin doesn't need to do a lot of damage, it needs to be able to survive through a lot more. That directly affects overall party DPS, be it four man content, eight man or even twenty-four. How? Well, the more resilient your tank is, the more the healer can step up and DPS in their place. Make paladin the beefiest of the tanks, keep flash the way it is, and let the healers make up for their low damage. As it stands for most content, PLD, DRK and WAR are all pretty well equal in terms of resiliency, so the healer will probably spend approximately the same amount of time dealing damage while healing any of the three. However, if paladin could sustain itself noticeably longer than warrior or dark, then that makes up for their lack of personal damage. Another solution would be to give Paladin a skill called War Drum. Have them pull out a drumstick and play a sick beat on their shield that rallies the party, causing a damage up buff. Bard tank best tank. This is a joke, but it is a legitimate compromise for paladin's lack of AOE dps. Give them party buffs.
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vexed View Post
    Agreed.Another solution would be to give Paladin a skill called War Drum. Have them pull out a drumstick and play a sick beat on their shield that rallies the party, causing a damage up buff. Bard tank best tank. This is a joke, but it is a legitimate compromise for paladin's lack of AOE dps. Give them party buffs.
    I agree with all of this, particularly the part about the party buffs. I think it's really silly that Paladin is the only class that thematically forms part of a military organization, and yet it has absolutely nothing of worth to give to the party from this piece of lore and flavor. Also, the part where PLD could be the best tank at mitigating stuff. It would make solo healing things much easier and could open up different party comp possibilities. They would have to really up WAR and DRK's damage for that, though, which isn't necessarily bad, but yeah.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Personally, I believe the solution is to reestablish paladins as the damage mitigation tank. By that, I mean them having the best mitigation for all types of damage. Furthermore, the developers should make that matter.
    The big problem with this is that this used to be how it was, PLD was the mitigation tank, and WAR was the damage tank, it worked really well and you would have a PLD and WAR on your team and everything would be good.

    By releasing DRK it threw a massive curve ball into the system and meant that one tank was always competing for a slot. This is why DRK is the magic tank and PLD is the physical tank, which only served to strengthen WAR as an all-round mitigation and DPS tank. By making PLD good against all types of damage, DRK would be strictly the worst tank, and we would have this problem all over again.
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