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    I'll give this another shot. (realizing that flash is actually more lazy and basic because it does nothing to enhance gameplay)

    The first issue with making Flash do damage is that it's a spell. It gets no benefit from Fight or Flight at all because that only effects physical damage. So off the bat this is a weaker alternative to Overpower unless they jack the potency up to make up for it, then it becomes quite possibly too strong which clashes with the thought that PLD shouldn't be as powerful as the other tanks. The second is Bloodbath, a cross class skill PLD already has, will not work with Flash. It doesn't work with Unleash, it won't work with Flash. So the options are to either change flash to a weaponskill and physical damage (Which btw will be more beneficial to DRK that PLD), change Fight or Flight to increase Attack Power which is what Berserk does, or be okay with a AoE that has no synergy or bonus effect.

    I understand the thought of a weird animation but... have you tried using your unused crossclass skills? They all have completely different animations from their native use. If you have a DRK go use the pointless attack you get from PLD or WAR, its got a cool animation that you'll never see. With PLD they will likely reuse an animation that involved swinging the blade horizontally and creating the shockwave. Fairly similar to the wind slash attacks often used in anime.

    The issue with TP. Right now if a WAR and a PLD were to go out and spam Overpower WAR would have about two or three more uses per minute because of equilibrium. As a War I would use Overpower as needed, and then rotate to single target because we don't have invigorate to boost our TP like melee DPS does. Also once per minute if all we're doing is spamming Overpower the WAR could pop infuriate but in the end your not going to spam it dry. Overpower won't be used in single target fights so that TP argument is out the window too. The only one not screwed by Overpower is DRK because of Bloodweapon, and its two AoE spells that can be passively filled with mana, along with its aoe DoT.

    In an initial 18 second window a PLD with overpower will be using Fight or Flight, Blood Bath, and able to weave a blind or two during it all. Flash initially has a 12sec window of blind, then the second a 6. In that rough time frame PLD will be getting some self healing that both DRK and WAR are able to do, reduce damage, and deal a decent amount of AoE damage as well. Yes that is a bit samey with WAR and DRK, and I understand not wanting the classes the same, but it will either end up like this anyway, or be inferior.

    As much as I would like SE to give us our own spammable AoE it'll go right into three areas. It will be a spamable weaponskill that will do everything I just described, it will be a spamable spell that will be unaffected by PLD's own attack buff or blood bath, or it will be a counter hit which means its reliant off block chance. While the counter hit is appealing it is no longer on demand.

    Lastly SE will find the easiest way to solve a problem, and if that's reusing assests you bet they will. PLD already has barely any useful cross class skills, this would be a useful one. I just see more coming out of our play with Flash being able to do its part with mitigation of auto attacks than being a inferior aoe. Not only that, but among all the complaints I've seen in my giant FC that seems to have new members every day is that PLD's lack of aoe or combo's is extremely boring. I've seen plenty of new players or new to tanking players jump straight to WAR because of overpower, or DRK because it's Flash with damage.

    I'm open to where I may be wrong in my assumptions, I just wanted to try a more fleshed out way to explain myself as it felt my point wasn't getting across. And if that's simply wanting an AoE that's PLD only, well I can't deny it would be nice to have. But I really can't see any point in making Flash do damage when it could still be useful for blind and we get an AoE that, from what I can see, has more synergy.
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    Last edited by Rhaja; 06-30-2016 at 01:37 AM.