Dragoon pet

[Hachi-Roku]

I didn't mean a "literal" crit-master. I just meant the idea of Dragoon, not having a pet, was nothing new. The terminology has been around since, like....the 18th century, and it had little to NOTHING to do w/ dragons. So, I'd say a decade old idea is hardly considered "OLD" by comparison.

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FF has a history of being an MMO with XI-
In XI, DRG had a wyvern pet
Ergo, in the context of FF, MMOs, and DRGs, pets are the standard and let's never do it again.

[SilvertearRen]

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FF has a history of being an MMO with XI-
In XI, DRG had a wyvern pet
Ergo, in the context of FF, MMOs, and DRGs, pets are the standard and let's never do it again.

This is not hard to follow, Khal_Drogo.

We've never had a non-pet Dragoon class in a Final Fantasy MMO, and we really would like to see how a new flavor works out.

[Khal_Drogo]

This is not hard to follow, Khal_Drogo.

We've never had a non-pet Dragoon class in a Final Fantasy MMO, and we really would like to see how a new flavor works out.

Ok, now we're just splitting hairs...."we've never had DRG w/o a pet in an FF MMO?" Really? That's your response? We've almost NEVER had an FF MMO. This is the 2nd one, and you already wanna scrap something that "barely got it's feet wet?"

[Teakwood]

FFXI had lots of time to explore the DRG class, and it went from being "best DD in the game" to "a complete joke" and then all the way back to "awesome" again, although that seems to have been after you quit the game. It's a great job, it's fun, interesting, and adorable, it makes sense in the context of FFXI, but /it's been done to death/ and there are other, easier-to-balance ways of making Dragoon in FFXIV an interesting job that stands on its own merits.

Oh, and, while we're splitting hairs...

"Dragoons", historically, were light cavalry. So...

"Dragoon as a pet job" actually is centuries old, not a decade old. B)

[SilvertearRen]

Ok, now we're just splitting hairs...."we've never had DRG w/o a pet in an FF MMO?" Really? That's your response? We've almost NEVER had an FF MMO. This is the 2nd one, and you already wanna scrap something that "barely got it's feet wet?"

Barely? Uh...

When was Dragoon introduced? Was it with Chains of Promathia? That expansion was released in 2004.

That's nearly a decade, and I think you really need to get your head checked.

To reiterate, we're getting other pet classes eventually. Summoner and Beastmaster.

If you can't handle the heat, get outta the kitchen. The poll's overwhelmingly against Dragoon being made into a pet class.

[Khal_Drogo]

FFXI had lots of time to explore the DRG class, and it went from being "best DD in the game" to "a complete joke" and then all the way back to "awesome" again, although that seems to have been after you quit the game. It's a great job, it's fun, interesting, and adorable, it makes sense in the context of FFXI, but /it's been done to death/ and there are other, easier-to-balance ways of making Dragoon in FFXIV an interesting job that stands on its own merits.

Oh, and, while we're splitting hairs...

"Dragoons", historically, were light cavalry. So...

"Dragoon as a pet job" actually is centuries old, not a decade old. B)

Well, first of all, I was referring to the *terminology, "Dragoon," not what it entails. Secondly, the idea of Dragoon having a WYVERN pet is the new one, not just a "pet" in general, so that point is moot. Either way, not everyone that plays XIV, played XI; so, just because you've had your fill of something, doesn't mean those experiences should be withheld from the rest of the world.

[SilvertearRen]

Well, first of all, I was referring to the *terminology, "Dragoon," not what it entails. Secondly, the idea of Dragoon having a WYVERN pet is the new one, not just a "pet" in general, so that point is moot. Either way, not everyone that plays XIV, played XI; so, just because you've had your fill of something, doesn't mean those experiences should be withheld from the rest of the world.

Having a Dragoon with a Wyvern for eight years is long enough to formulate a concrete dataset that suggests that it isn't recommended for the format Final Fantasy XIV is using.

Seriously, when will people stop using Final Fantasy XI as a baseline guide for classes in XIV?

Never? Oh, alright. I'll just urinate in your morning coffee, then.

[Hachi-Roku]

Either way, not everyone that plays XIV, played XI; so, just because you've had your fill of something, doesn't mean those experiences should be withheld from the rest of the world.

I disagree with this- nobody should have to suffer through the years where DRG was a horrible job.

[KaynelD]

At the risk of being railed on I just wanted to throw my opinion out there. I have stated this in other threads, but I loved the dragoon from XI and would like to see something similar in XIV. I loved my pet wyvern and felt it added to my identity as a dragoon. I also liked the added challenge of trying to keep my pet alive as long as it does not turn into my main focus. That being said, it doesn't have to be exactly the same though. I also like the idea of making it more like Freya from IX.
I can see how balancing it just right might be difficult, but I disagree with those that say it wouldn't work in this game.

[Khal_Drogo]

Having a Dragoon with a Wyvern for eight years is long enough to formulate a concrete dataset that suggests that it isn't recommended for the format Final Fantasy XIV is using.

Seriously, when will people stop using Final Fantasy XI as a baseline guide for classes in XIV?

Never? Oh, alright. I'll just urinate in your morning coffee, then.

Um...are my arguments not challenging enough for you, so you decided to argue w/ yourself?

That's what, virtually, everyone's argument in here IS...It "SUCKED" in XI, so it shouldn't be used here w/ XIV. So, it's alright to reference XI as a baseline as long as it's being used to further your own agenda?

What is that called....it's right on the tip of my tongue. Oh ya! It's called being a hypocrite.