Dragoon pet

[Illy]

As a LNC i personally don't want the pet. As many have mentioned I would prefer the player stay powerful instead of having to be gimped just to have a pet that it itself will most likley not be all that useful.

Many seem to want the Wyvern pet simply because it would be "cool" or because FFXI had it and both of those are poor reasons when you consider the same people who are wanting the Wyvern pet would be the same people to complain when the player was weakened to balance out having a pet.

Also another thing is that I don't want FFXIV becoming more like XI then it already has. I love the idea of the job names coming back(as those names have always been part of Final Fantasy and not just XI) but I don't want the jobs themselves being copy and paste from XI. In the past Lancer/Dragoon was a job that had alot of different jumps and I would like to see that explored much more then just throwing a pet at the job. I want the jobs to be more interesting and diverse then they were in XIV.

[Zahak]

[Teakwood]

Whoops, which FF was DRG a positional crit-master in? I must have missed that one.

P.S., I think now it's my turn to reference the Dragoon in Final Fantasy II that had an alliance with a wyvern.

But, no, you're totally right, there's nothing at all new about the idea of DRG as a pet job, it's a decade old, and it never really worked very well in the game it was in. Do I think they couldn't possibly ever make a Dragon-as-a-pet-job type thing work in FFXIV? Naw, and I actually like the idea of it as an eventual other available job for Lancer, even.

I'd just much rather see FFXIV's Dragoon be a departure from FFXI's Dragoon.

[AmyRae]

Whoops, which FF was DRG a positional crit-master in? I must have missed that one.

I'm going to go with Kain from Final Fantasy 4, who was a crit-master from the position of...

The sky!

...after dodging a mega-boss's fatal desperation attack that wiped the whole party except for Kain who escaped the whole damn thing. So cool...

What I'm saying is, we need bad-ass dragoons like that again. Wyvern husbandry was nice, and all, but I'm all for going back to the roots. So many Final Fantasy titles have dragoons as a "jumping" job, and with so many great characters in that role (even a Cid, once). Pets were just a gimmick of FFXI, which is fine, but it's a clearly a variation and not the tradition of the role.

If they could implement some amazing, tactical, breathtaking jumps for dragoons, it would be the best thing ever. Far more than any pet would be, at least.

[Teakwood]

FFXI had lots of time to explore the DRG class, and it went from being "best DD in the game" to "a complete joke" and then all the way back to "awesome" again, although that seems to have been after you quit the game. It's a great job, it's fun, interesting, and adorable, it makes sense in the context of FFXI, but /it's been done to death/ and there are other, easier-to-balance ways of making Dragoon in FFXIV an interesting job that stands on its own merits.

Oh, and, while we're splitting hairs...

"Dragoons", historically, were light cavalry. So...

"Dragoon as a pet job" actually is centuries old, not a decade old. B)

[Khal_Drogo]

FFXI had lots of time to explore the DRG class, and it went from being "best DD in the game" to "a complete joke" and then all the way back to "awesome" again, although that seems to have been after you quit the game. It's a great job, it's fun, interesting, and adorable, it makes sense in the context of FFXI, but /it's been done to death/ and there are other, easier-to-balance ways of making Dragoon in FFXIV an interesting job that stands on its own merits.

Oh, and, while we're splitting hairs...

"Dragoons", historically, were light cavalry. So...

"Dragoon as a pet job" actually is centuries old, not a decade old. B)

Well, first of all, I was referring to the *terminology, "Dragoon," not what it entails. Secondly, the idea of Dragoon having a WYVERN pet is the new one, not just a "pet" in general, so that point is moot. Either way, not everyone that plays XIV, played XI; so, just because you've had your fill of something, doesn't mean those experiences should be withheld from the rest of the world.

[SilvertearRen]

Well, first of all, I was referring to the *terminology, "Dragoon," not what it entails. Secondly, the idea of Dragoon having a WYVERN pet is the new one, not just a "pet" in general, so that point is moot. Either way, not everyone that plays XIV, played XI; so, just because you've had your fill of something, doesn't mean those experiences should be withheld from the rest of the world.

Having a Dragoon with a Wyvern for eight years is long enough to formulate a concrete dataset that suggests that it isn't recommended for the format Final Fantasy XIV is using.

Seriously, when will people stop using Final Fantasy XI as a baseline guide for classes in XIV?

Never? Oh, alright. I'll just urinate in your morning coffee, then.

[Khal_Drogo]

Having a Dragoon with a Wyvern for eight years is long enough to formulate a concrete dataset that suggests that it isn't recommended for the format Final Fantasy XIV is using.

Seriously, when will people stop using Final Fantasy XI as a baseline guide for classes in XIV?

Never? Oh, alright. I'll just urinate in your morning coffee, then.

Um...are my arguments not challenging enough for you, so you decided to argue w/ yourself?

That's what, virtually, everyone's argument in here IS...It "SUCKED" in XI, so it shouldn't be used here w/ XIV. So, it's alright to reference XI as a baseline as long as it's being used to further your own agenda?

What is that called....it's right on the tip of my tongue. Oh ya! It's called being a hypocrite.

[Hachi-Roku]

Either way, not everyone that plays XIV, played XI; so, just because you've had your fill of something, doesn't mean those experiences should be withheld from the rest of the world.

I disagree with this- nobody should have to suffer through the years where DRG was a horrible job.