CNJ = WHM and THM = BLM

[AmyRae]

Pretty much, since according to many, FFXI is the devil which is why Tanaka originally tried to make XIV as different from XI (or any FF) as possible, this includes not making "AF gear" and even then, under the original system people would be able to wear 'BLM AF' as a Maurader -- You'd have no benefit but you'd be able to wear it.

*sigh*

No, that's not right at all. I have a quote from your own site that contradicts this.

Q4: Will the artifact story line quests return for each class from FFXI? If not, will similar quest lines carry on a system of “right of passage” such as limit break quests?

A: Character development along the lines of the Armoury system and skill levels will incorporate familiar concepts from FFXI as well as entirely new elements.

Follow-Up Answers from the interview with FFXIV Producer Hiromichi Tanaka (Oct. 5, 2009)

Questions were asked by Zyuu and answered by Hiromichi Tanaka.

[Arcell]

So I wonder if Black Mage and White Mage will keep the AoE quirks from their corresponding classes.

[Agoven]

It would be interesting to see if CON -> WHM these 2 get Holy spells...and Healing Spells become Undead Attack spells...don't discount that potential fact.

And they've already prepped everyone that CON is healer and THM is Nuker....currently no elemental spell from conjurer even comes close to THM Shadowsear.

[Soukyuu]

They could also make it so BLM has access to all of CON's nukes without any downside, and give THM Profundity. It's already been stated that PLD requires that you have both GLA to 30 and MRD to 15. You will likely need THM to 30 and CON to 15 for BLM. That would give you all the nuke spells you need. And more than likely, BLM will be getting some of its own magic potency+ abilities that blow anything CON could to do out of the water.

And maybe WHM will then require the opposite; 30 CON and 15 THM, which will somehow balance it out.

Though for me THM still look more like a healer class, simply because they wear robes with hoods that remind of clerics while CON wear typical FF BLM clothes - that's what they show on their own website, so idk

[Delsus]

What people are fogetting is that SE can do anything with the quests, how about for the BLM unlock quest "You must go to the Conjurer's guild in Gridania to learn the ways of the conjurer", then "You must go to the the THM guld in order to purge all white magic", just a little somthing I came up with on the spot, but they can do anything to give THM elemental nukes and AM.

[Exn]

So yes, you did say that. You were very specific and difinitive about it.

Thanks for copying it and proving my point. I said death doesn't relate to their LORE, and terrifying destruction can relate to many, many things. But I don't expect you to understand this, we already established that..

[Claire_Pendragon]

*sigh*

No, that's not right at all. I have a quote from your own site that contradicts this.


Follow-Up Answers from the interview with FFXIV Producer Hiromichi Tanaka (Oct. 5, 2009)

Questions were asked by Zyuu and answered by Hiromichi Tanaka.

Thanks for finding that.
Personally hate discussions where I have to go find the old interviews.

Reminds me of when ppl asked about TH for THF in XI for years, despite the questions being answered multiple times. (And other similar issues of course.)

[Dreamer]

It would be interesting to see if CON -> WHM these 2 get Holy spells...and Healing Spells become Undead Attack spells...don't discount that potential fact.

And they've already prepped everyone that CON is healer and THM is Nuker....currently no elemental spell from conjurer even comes close to THM Shadowsear.

This is a good example of how a lot of people are fundamentally misunderstanding how the job system is setup.

A class unlocks a job, but it is not a version of the job it unlocks. A conjurer is not a healer. A conjurer is not a non-party variant of a white mage. A conjurer is a conjurer - a disciple of magic who specializes in harnessing the elements and a repertoire of support spells. A conjurer only has two links to white mages. It unlocks the white mage class and the experience from white mage trickles down to it. That's it.

[Prats_Summmons]

Please repair mages naoki is a shame they do not harm, do not understand how magicians have been able to do so badly, I hope soon that mages have always been hope that the BLM can do any damage you have to do, have made ​​many mistakes with the mages 2 classes is stupid, and abilities, BLM has been always the most damage in a final fantasy,i hope change with mages news,now lancer and others more damage,please repair class

[Malakhim]

This is a good example of how a lot of people are fundamentally misunderstanding how the job system is setup.

A class unlocks a job, but it is not a version of the job it unlocks. A conjurer is not a healer. A conjurer is not a non-party variant of a white mage. A conjurer is a conjurer - a disciple of magic who specializes in harnessing the elements and a repertoire of support spells. A conjurer only has to links to white mages. It unlocks the white mage class and the experience from white mage trickles down to it. That's it.

This basically.

It's also amazing that people keep forgetting that classes aren't going the way of the dodo once jobs are introduced. You want to keep being all about max ranged DPS and say no to support jobs? You can always stick to Archer. Want to keep your elemental spells(which seem to be the only thing tying Conjurer to Black Mage)? Then just stick with Conjurer.

This isn't the huge deal people seem to be making it out to be.