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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I'm not sure how to react to this. I would say nukes are a fundamental aspect of CNJ and are NOT a fundamental aspect of THM. So is he saying THM will not get the nukes? Will BLM be reduced to a debuff class and elemental nukes will just go unused since melee will be screaming "Stop casting Fire II and HEAL!!!1!!"?

    Please tell me I misunderstand the implications of this.
    Twelve forbid jobs taking abilities from more than just their own branching class. I haven't specifically seen a post saying that jobs are limited to their own branching class, just that they get less diverse options (unless I somehow missed out on that very important point). So the elemental skills may be available for Black Mages to take from the Conjurer branch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    Hey guys! I wanted to pass along a couple of posts from Yoshida regarding the upcoming class adjustment schedule.
    /happiness ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chezen View Post
    /happiness ^^
    Lol I completely missed that post T.T But, anyways YAY!
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    Classes are the versatile part of XIV. Jobs aren't.

    Classes won't be shoehorned into one role. At worst, one role might be slightly emphasized.

    In fact, I guess that these changes have little to do with altering class roles and everything to do about how the actions function in gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Classes are the versatile part of XIV. Jobs aren't.

    Classes won't be shoehorned into one role. At worst, one role might be slightly emphasized.
    and Jobs are intended for a party setting with singular specialized role and classes are more geared for solo.

    At this point, we will just have to wait and see the changes that are coming. Yoshi is great at surprising us.
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    your THM need fire,water etc from CNJ and when turn up to BLM you will get Fira,blizzara etc and -ga spells.. I think it will be like that...then I hope Fire II will different from Fira...Im just speculating
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    That research ignores completely everything that wasn't in XI. Every spell that wasn't in that list but which THN possesses makes it a much stronger candidate for being a BLM. XI's BLM may as well be called an elementalist, while XIV's is darker and more evil/or absolute.

    There is no reason why WHM can not be an elementalist at the same time. All its spells can be linked to elements. Nor that THM can not be a controller of both light and dark. BLM can obtain some natural elements from CNJ while giving up the light element and WHM can obtain the light element from THM while giving up some of its natural elements.
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 11-09-2011 at 12:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    That research ignores completely everything that wasn't in XI. Every spell that wasn't in that list but which THN possesses makes it a much stronger candidate for being a BLM. XI's BLM may as well be called an elementalist, while XIV's is darker and more evil.
    I agree, but I wasn't going to repost everything I have ever posted on this topic. There are 3 or 4 old threads on this topic and I don't wish to spam this thread. The jobs were put out and making 99.999% of my points useless.
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    Last edited by Klive; 11-09-2011 at 12:36 PM. Reason: editing threeway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    That research ignores completely everything that wasn't in XI. Every spell that wasn't in that list but which THN possesses makes it a much stronger candidate for being a BLM. XI's BLM may as well be called an elementalist, while XIV's is darker and more evil/or absolute.
    Um, your assuming what BLM is going to be before it is realeased. We have to wait before we see if it is still an Elementalist or something more dark/Evil magic.
    Black Mages/Black Magic in general have never been 'evil' they just used the offensive side of spells. I mean look at Vivi from FFIX. He was FAR from evil. And Lulu. She had a little goth thing going on but, that is hardly evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowen View Post
    Um, your assuming what BLM is going to be before it is realeased. We have to wait before we see if it is still an Elementalist or something more dark/Evil magic.
    Black Mages/Black Magic in general have never been 'evil' they just used the offensive side of spells. I mean look at Vivi from FFIX. He was FAR from evil. And Lulu. She had a little goth thing going on but, that is hardly evil.
    I agree that they have never been 'evil' per-se. Well, neither is thaumaturgy really. Being absolute or lawful-chaos type would still be a good fit for it.
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