Jumping confirmed

[Jennestia]

It's also kind of confusing for me how people are in such support for the "Jump" attack move in the game as a part of Dragoon's arsenal, yet actual jumping in the game as a normal physics mechanic is hair pullingly horrible.

Nothing at all confusing about it.

Jump for Dragoon is a traditional critical damage ability of varying nature -- Jump as an emote is just giving people an animation play with it. Obviously people want Dragoon to retain everything (except for a pet because a pet is bad etc etc!) but the ability to Jump in general really adds nothing to the game especially since it negates the purpose for Dragoon to have a Jump ability if the emote version has battle implementations.

Some people hate Jump for the purpose people go on and on about how it makes the game better and how it leads to more exploration and etc, when the only truth in that is if SE allows it to lead to more exploration or allow Jump to traverse terrain, which with the exception of a few MMOs jump is only an animation, you're still being treated as you're walking/running and what you can't pass while doing as such, you won't be able to while Jumping.

No one plays an MMORPG because you can Jump, this is why some people seem to be getting annoyed by the very thought of it, because pro-jumpers are trying to paint as something that will make the game that much better.

[Arkine]

Not 100% with jump but if its implemented I'd like it to be realistic, maybe mix in some climbing with it, jump across a hole or jump/climb over a fence or a small obstacle or make it a roll jump a la Demon's souls.

But if its going to be a way for people to jump up an entire flight of stairs, on on top of peoples heads then I'm against it.

[Reliquia]

Dragoons should sue Square-Enix for giving everybody the ability to jump.

[Nikita]

Same here. Though again, I have more important reasons behind not backing up the filter function. If they're going to make jump worth having in the game, I'd like it to be more than just a bare bones traversing tool.

I can picture fights where there are segments you might have to jump up to to evade say a long delay super attack from a Primal... like perhaps Leviathan's Tidal wave. That comes to mind. Granted, this could be done with an incline just as well as a jump feature, but it's something to consider.



I disagree with no use in combat, but the delay function sounds fair.

It's also kind of confusing for me how people are in such support for the "Jump" attack move in the game as a part of Dragoon's arsenal, yet actual jumping in the game as a normal physics mechanic is hair pullingly horrible.

What is confusing to me is how people think that letting characters jump a foot or two off the ground takes away from the Dragoon job. The Dragoon's jump is completely different from the traditional MMO obstacle avoiding jump. If giving people the ability to hop over obstacles would detract from the Dragoon job for people, they really need to re-evaluate what makes a Dragoon....

Also, I trust that SE will add jump to be more than just an animation, I am not sure what these games are that people play where jumping doesn't let you avoid objects or hop onto them, but I have never experienced them. Jumping has always served a purpose. If someone would like to list some games where jumping is merely a pointless animation (and it was made in the past 5 years), I would love to see it for myself.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

What is confusing to me is how people think that letting characters jump a foot or two off the ground takes away from the Dragoon job. The Dragoon's jump is completely different from the traditional MMO obstacle avoiding jump. If giving people the ability to hop over obstacles would detract from the Dragoon job for people, they really need to re-evaluate what makes a Dragoon....

Also, I trust that SE will add jump to be more than just an animation, I am not sure what these games are that people play where jumping doesn't let you avoid objects or hop onto them, but I have never experienced them. Jumping has always served a purpose. If someone would like to list some games where jumping is merely a pointless animation (and it was made in the past 5 years), I would love to see it for myself.

WoW, jumping was pointless in WoW, they added a few (and I mean a very few) platforming elements in it, but jump could have been absent from WoW and it would have been the exact same game.

This is an MMORPG you dont need to hop onto anything
This is an MMORPG you dont need to jump to avoid attacks, you EVA skill should be doing that
This is not an Action RPG
This is not a platformer
This is a MMORPG

Add jumping, I don't care.... but disable it in battle and add atleast a 5 sec delay in its use.

[Betelgeuzah]

This is not an Action RPG

This is an action RPG quite frankly, only a fairly bad one at that.

Well, at least it's better than the pitiful 'strategy' RPG's earlier FF's were. "Find an easy gimmick, beat everything".

[Blarp]

WoW, jumping was pointless in WoW, they added a few (and I mean a very few) platforming elements in it, but jump could have been absent from WoW and it would have been the exact same game.

This is an MMORPG you dont need to hop onto anything
This is an MMORPG you dont need to jump to avoid attacks, you EVA skill should be doing that
This is not an Action RPG
This is not a platformer
This is a MMORPG

Add jumping, I don't care.... but disable it in battle and add atleast a 5 sec delay in its use.

This is an MMORPG you don't need a mailbox.
This is an MMORPG you don't need LS administration.
This is an MMORPG you don't need an AH.
This is an MMORPG you don't need a LFG tool.

We don't need any of those things either. We've been playing without them for over a year.

Who are you to define what makes an MMO?

[DeadRiser]

Yeah, just continue on being hypocritical about choice. At least the anti-jump crowd has at least been willing to compromise, unlike your kind.

Oh, and I'm not a dude.

Who said I'm being a hypocrite? Now your just putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about people having choice in this thread, be that about a middle ground or jumping being in the game or not.

wow....what a child......


BTW there is a middle ground with jumping, and one I would gladly accept. Make a small cool down for the jump so people could not "hop" and disable the use of it all together in combat, both PvP and PvE

You see, this is why I keep laughing, I made a joke and you take it to heart. Seriously dude, why DOES there have to be a middle ground? Why a cooldown? You really think people are going to keep spamming it all the time? What fact from XIV do you have that you can base a judgement as people spamming jump? YOU DON'T.

[Dragon]

Who said I'm being a hypocrite? Now your just putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about people having choice in this thread, be that about a middle ground or jumping being in the game or not.

You must be a blonde.

[Shneibel]

I do want a 1-3 sec cool down between jump with a animation character landing, if the distance is higher ground, will need a 5-6 sec cool down with animation of heavy landing, I prefer it this way

ninja edit: and no it is not to anti spam jump it is to add more realitist into game