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    I'd just like to point out I have no qualms with Lalafells having circus high jumps, I'm just pointing out that like with weapons and other things it's something developers need to compromise "Realism" with to make the game fair for everyone.

    Nobody really argues it either, it just makes sense from a development and player point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I'd just like to point out I have no qualms with Lalafells having circus high jumps, I'm just pointing out that like with weapons and other things it's something developers need to compromise "Realism" with to make the game fair for everyone.

    Nobody really argues it either, it just makes sense from a development and player point of view.
    Lalafells have always had difficulties with physics balance though. Even in FFXI where they can jump from standing still to a running gait that's just as fast as Elvaan Thf's flee speed if the Tarutaru has flee too.

    I just make an excuse that they're surprisingly light weight, as is their weaponry is both surprisingly lightweight and 'sharp' (which is why a Gaxe on a Taru does the same as a Galka's base damage wise.)

    Some suspension of disbelief is required in any fantasy game. Apparently though, people don't like stretching it much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Some suspension of disbelief is required in any fantasy game. Apparently though, people don't like stretching it much.
    Oh of course, it's never really bothered me that's the way things are. It's just when someone tries to tell me that it actually revolves around real world Physics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Oh of course, it's never really bothered me that's the way things are. It's just when someone tries to tell me that it actually revolves around real world Physics...
    Best not to get too involved in situations like that. Some exceptions exist, but often prove the rule.

    Fleas or many insects for existence, and their jumping potential, often defy what would be the conventional sense of gravity, where it's just a density of mass thing, mixed with pretty much high-tension springboards for feet.

    I've always gone under the assumption that Final Fantasy games feature low gravity worlds. And when keeping that in mind, a lot of the physics questions its games raise fall back into place rather nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Oh of course, it's never really bothered me that's the way things are. It's just when someone tries to tell me that it actually revolves around real world Physics...
    You come here midway into the discussion. Which is probably why you assume things of me that were never really there. The point I was making was against someone using realism as a reference. I was actually using it to combat their point by saying that realism actually proves that it is true that all races can jump at the same height.

    If you still do not believe this, that is not my problem. That is an issue of ignorance that you may have to work out with yourself.

    I started this discussion stating that I dislike putting realism into games such as these and using real world physics is not the way to go for a fantasy game. That is a ridiculous outlook. However, if you are going to attempt to use real world physics against why the lalafell is jumping at the same height as the human in terms of the space between the ground and their feet. That part, although it looked like it need to be lowered and tweaked, is correct using real world physics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    I don't get what point you are trying to make. All I said was that there can't be a middle ground for a jump feature. You either have it or you don't. You want them to blurr out people while they are jumping? Or them to look like they are still walking through an object when they actually jump over it?

    Answer that please, because you didn't answer it the first time.
    What I want to know is, where can I buy what you're smoking? It seems quite obvious, that with the devs being smart as they are, could find a way to substitute in another animation. Personally, I'd like to be able to replace jumping animations with faceplant treatments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raynar View Post
    LMAO! You sir made my day with that comment. That's rich since how the hell their going to put a jump command input on the controller since is already set with current game without remapping the whole thing all over again.
    Thanks, but I'm a mistress, not a sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    What I want to know is, where can I buy what you're smoking? It seems quite obvious, that with the devs being smart as they are, could find a way to substitute in another animation. Personally, I'd like to be able to replace jumping animations with faceplant treatments.



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    Lol whatever dude. Call me what you want and say what you want: Just get over it, it's being added.

    Now I'll just say that I'm glad they are adding it to slap all the anti-jumpers in the face. I hope they make it as stupid and un-gracious as they can. /endrant
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Lol whatever dude. Call me what you want and say what you want: Just get over it, it's being added.

    Now I'll just say that I'm glad they are adding it to slap all the anti-jumpers in the face. I hope they make it as stupid and un-gracious as they can. /endrant
    Yeah, just continue on being hypocritical about choice. At least the anti-jump crowd has at least been willing to compromise, unlike your kind.

    Oh, and I'm not a dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Lol whatever dude. Call me what you want and say what you want: Just get over it, it's being added.

    Now I'll just say that I'm glad they are adding it to slap all the anti-jumpers in the face. I hope they make it as stupid and un-gracious as they can. /endrant
    wow....what a child......


    BTW there is a middle ground with jumping, and one I would gladly accept. Make a small cool down for the jump so people could not "hop" and disable the use of it all together in combat, both PvP and PvE
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