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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    I think the difference between you and I is that I am not running this discussion on emotions. You seem entirely too passionate in this discussion and maybe you should sit back and look at this with some common sense.

    It would not make common sense to implement what you are asking. There is no whining coming from this direction in the slightest. It is easy to identify your actions as being irrational by how emotionally driven your suggestions are.
    Fine, keep dodging the issue.

    Once again, using the logic of jumping being implemented for the sake of some people's fun, the ability to be able to turn it off for the sake of other people's fun is only fair. You claim to want freedom of choice, but obviously you can't support it when it goes against what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    Fine, keep dodging the issue.

    Once again, using the logic of jumping being implemented for the sake of some people's fun, the ability to be able to turn it off for the sake of other people's fun is only fair. You claim to want freedom of choice, but obviously you can't support it when it goes against what you want.
    You no longer interest me when it comes to discussing this issue because of how emotionally driven you are. I cannot have an intelligent discussion with someone if they are this seemingly irrational. The point was not to push anything onto you. I was just pointing out common sense and you fought back with emotions manipulating what I type as a personal attack against your beliefs.

    Your beliefs do not make sense to implement. That's really all there is to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    I'm not capable of comprehending that some people want the actual freedom of choice so I just claim it as irrational and ignore the points made.
    All choices are equal, some more than others. Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    Your beliefs do not make sense to implement.
    What does that mean?
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    I think turning off other people jumping and then having them fly around up cliffs and stuff would be more immmersion-breaking than being able to see people jump.
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    Had a good laugh at the attempt to explain how a lala could jump as high as let's say a elzenn

    It's not possible to do it logically aero spell? What about the non magic classes? Just admit no matter what they do lala are going to either be circ desole stars or everyone else is going to have bad knees and can't jump higher than the midgets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Had a good laugh at the attempt to explain how a lala could jump as high as let's say a elzenn

    It's not possible to do it logically aero spell? What about the non magic classes? Just admit no matter what they do lala are going to either be circ desole stars or everyone else is going to have bad knees and can't jump higher than the midgets
    It is possible, Spub Web did it. He is like 5'7" and jumped like 11 feet
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    If pigs can really fly, I wouldn't care about anything else!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Had a good laugh at the attempt to explain how a lala could jump as high as let's say a elzenn

    It's not possible to do it logically aero spell? What about the non magic classes? Just admit no matter what they do lala are going to either be circ desole stars or everyone else is going to have bad knees and can't jump higher than the midgets
    That wasn't a serious example, but the physics are fact, actually. If each race was the same in fitness across the board, it is a fact that they will relatively jump the same height as each other.

    Sorry if I pointed out something logical in this thread. I know how ill received it can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    That wasn't a serious example, but the physics are fact, actually. If each race was the same in fitness across the board, it is a fact that they will relatively jump the same height as each other.
    I'm sorry but you're comparing humans of varied heights and similar physical aptitude to races of massively varied height, mass, musculature and even anatomy. Lalafell leg musculature in proportion to body size is significantly lower than that of a Hyur. They would - if we're going to make the iffy decision to make this argument about real world physics - have a lower jump height. Roegadyn on the other hand have extremely strong legs but a great deal more mass - they'll probably jump about the same height as a Hyur would. Mi'qote meanwhile have about the same proportionate leg musculature as a Hyur but lower mass, they'd probably jump a bit higher in general. Elezen probably a bit higher, too, by similar logic.

    So .. your logic almost holds up, though not quite by the reasons you offer. It falls with Lalafell, however, who - when you take anatomy into account - would probably have a lower jump height even than had you simply reduced the height they can jump by their comparative height beside a Hyur.

    And was there really need for that needly little line on the end? Can't anyone here at least try to present their thoughts without having to make a stab at someone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    If each race was the same in fitness across the board, it is a fact that they will relatively jump the same height as each other.
    So a Fit Lalafell can jump as high as a fit Elzaan?

    What about a Fit Roegadyn Versus a Elzaan? Or a Highlander versus a Midlander?

    They are obviously not all of the exact same physical features even if around the same high. Why can the bulkier guy jump just as high as the slender guy? Your arguing a moronic point, admit that some functions in a game like this throw logic to the side for balance issues.
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