Jumping confirmed

[Fensfield]

Adjusting the jump is going to be a massive pain mainly due to Lala needing to be able to jump as high as other races without looking strange.

Also the other races have to have a respectable jump as well, making it even harder to balance the hight of the jump. Chances are regardless of how much balancing they do Lalafells will look like circus midgets when they jump or taller races will look like they are just "High stepping" over fences.

Honestly, I think this idea of it needing to be 'fair's just a reflexive assumption. If it's to be added, why shouldn't it be different between each race? You could take the same logic would demand all races jump equally high and run with it right up to total equipment and class homogeneity.

Hell, you could even vary it by class (or armour choice?). Say.. Paladins/heavy armour(+small/large/otherwise stubby-legged races?) have the lowest jump proficiency and the assumedly eventual Ninja/Dancer classes and/or those wearing tighter cloth gear the highest?

'Might add an interesting twist to its implications for gameplay.

[Jynx]

why shouldn't it be different between each race?

When there is a race differentiation there needs to be balance as well. With XI some races had higher base stats than others to make up for it they also had lower base stats than others.

You can't balance something like that with a "Jump" feature. Unless it's entirely cosmetic and has no gameplay interactions every player should have the same jump. Otherwise it's unfair to people who picked a race that gets the most gimped jump beause they get nothing else in return.

For the jump feature to actually have a reason to exist in the game it needs to be the same for everyone else, it's akin to saying that Lalafell should also walk/run slower because they are smaller.

[Fensfield]

You can't balance something like that with a "Jump" feature. Unless it's entirely cosmetic and has no gameplay interactions every player should have the same jump. Otherwise it's unfair to people who picked a race that gets the most gimped jump beause they get nothing else in return.

Fair point, I suppose it would spill out into stats having to be fiddled with as a tradeoff .. though.. well frankly I wouldn't mind being 'gimped' in that sense. Being a Lalafell is the advantage I perceive from uh.. .. being a Lalafell.

Although that said, the advantage could be in having the smaller jump. Jum higher and farther? Obvious advantages.. buut also more time airborne, unable to orient or commit yourself differently.. But then I suppose the kind of effort necessary to program momentum like that's a bit beyond current spec.. meh.

For the jump feature to actually have a reason to exist in the game it needs to be the same for everyone else, it's akin to saying that Lalafell should also walk/run slower because they are smaller.

.. Except.. I'd kinda like that, too. Or, rather, I'd enjoy Lalafell walking and running slower and for there to be some (say, stamina .. and yes I know that's not in game and likely never will be) hit for running hard enough to keep up with longer-legged characters.

And no I'm not trying to argue the game should be that way because I'd like it, it's obviously a bad idea from a customer retention perspective, 'least with present tech. I'd just, you know.. like it, however stupid unlikely it may be.

'Sides if things ever got to that degree of nuance I'd probably be sitting pretty with my bloody great evasion advantage from being so tiny.

But yeah, fair points. Although I do still think the bit about gear/class having an influence on jump proficiency is still kinda viable and relevant, at least a fair bit moreso than race.

[Enma]

[Rowyne]

LOL, look at all those suicidal cows!

Being that I'm Alliance, they just made my job easier.

[Verecund]

PRAISE THE LOARD JUMP BEEN HAS CONFIRM ED MY ADHD IS CURED

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

They can all be the same height and actually if you want to get into realism, something I dislike doing when discussing video games such as these, the smaller and lighter person has a better ability to jump higher while the taller and more massive person usually cannot jump as high in relation to their body type. However, the average point in space in which they reach is relatively the same as each other.

It may look weird, but it actually is accurate in the real world. That is... if realism concerns you. If it's about the look of the jump being off in general then it just needs balancing. Perhaps they can make each race's jump animation unique and lalafell can do a small leap and shoot an aero spell to the ground to propel them further up. You can get creative with this to avoid people from thinking the physics are off, which they are not, but if they are this could be the way to go.

[Estellios]

They can all be the same height and actually if you want to get into realism, something I dislike doing when discussing video games such as these, the smaller and lighter person has a better ability to jump higher while the taller and more massive person usually cannot jump as high in relation to their body type. However, the average point in space in which they reach is relatively the same as each other.

It may look weird, but it actually is accurate in the real world. That is... if realism concerns you. If it's about the look of the jump being off in general then it just needs balancing. Perhaps they can make each race's jump animation unique and lalafell can do a small leap and shoot an aero spell to the ground to propel them further up. You can get creative with this to avoid people from thinking the physics are off, which they are not, but if they are this could be the way to go.

Yep, most smaller things tend to be able to jump higher/farther for their size due to their construction and weight. Fleas can clear what is comparatively a skyscraper to them. Lalafell are tiny and have some SWOLE legs and get a heavy leg workout running around so they should be able to jump high =P

[Dragon]

Edit: and something to add, that is a negative situation because allowing you to block these people completely over this addition is perpetuating an option that allows segregation over feelings that are completely irrational. Allowing you to block them justifies these ridiculous feelings.

No, because I'm not preventing you from enjoying your jumping. I'm not preventing you from doing something out of boredom. You want to whine about segregation? You're the one that wants to force your enjoyment onto me. Allowing one or another to block people allows both sides to enjoy the game. There is no rationality in preventing someone that doesn't enjoy the game as you enjoy it from enjoying the game the way they want to enjoy it, using the same logic as people that want jumping to be put into the game to begin with.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

No, because I'm not preventing you from enjoying your jumping. I'm not preventing you from doing something out of boredom. You want to whine about segregation? You're the one that wants to force your enjoyment onto me. Allowing one or another to block people allows both sides to enjoy the game. There is no rationality in preventing someone that doesn't enjoy the game as you enjoy it from enjoying the game the way they want to enjoy it, using the same logic as people that want jumping to be put into the game to begin with.

I think the difference between you and I is that I am not running this discussion on emotions. You seem entirely too passionate in this discussion and maybe you should sit back and look at this with some common sense.

It would not make common sense to implement what you are asking. There is no whining coming from this direction in the slightest. It is easy to identify your actions as being irrational by how emotionally driven your suggestions are.