Jumping confirmed

[Cendres]

Yes let's all pretend to be developers. Enough already.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Why is a jump cool down a solution all of the sudden? People are on their chocobos mostly so what the hell are you worried about with hopping along?

Giving us Jump and redesigning the zones with that in mind will make this POS environment a strong leap forward to being free roam. Something we call a standard for an MMO. Not..... repetitive corridors and roads that are copy pasta'ed where the only unique thing may be a random tree branch or rock on the ground THAT YOU RUN INTO AND GET STUCK AND CANNOT JUMP OVER.

Yeah, this is the way it's suppose to be. Totally.

[Teuciont]

Why is a jump cool down a solution all of the sudden? People are on their chocobos mostly so what the hell are you worried about with hopping along?

Giving us Jump and redesigning the zones with that in mind will make this POS environment a strong leap forward to being free roam. Something we call a standard for an MMO. Not..... repetitive corridors and roads that are copy pasta'ed where the only unique thing may be a random tree branch or rock on the ground THAT YOU RUN INTO AND GET STUCK AND CANNOT JUMP OVER.

Yeah, this is the way it's suppose to be. Totally.

"Standard." Says who? Ah, right. No innovation allowed. Sorry. SE has the chance to create an entirely new atmosphere for MMOs that doesn't rely on vertical jumping. But no, "we" all want vertical jumping and Lalafell jumping 10 feet in the air. Gotcha. Good thing "we" cleared that up. I'm glad you're here to talk for me and everyone else, as well as setting standards for games.

[Djeserit]

"Standard." Says who? Ah, right. No innovation allowed. Sorry. SE has the chance to create an entirely new atmosphere for MMOs that doesn't rely on vertical jumping. But no, "we" all want vertical jumping and Lalafell jumping 10 feet in the air. Gotcha. Good thing "we" cleared that up. I'm glad you're here to talk for me and everyone else, as well as setting standards for games.

So innovation is going from 3 dimensions to 2? You must live in a weird alternate world, usually innovation means increasing potential, not reducing it.

Again, they know that there is an issue with the jump height, They are fine tuning it. Calm down.

[Reliquia]

So innovation is going from 3 dimensions to 2? You must live in a weird alternate world, usually innovation means increasing potential, not reducing it.

Again, they know that there is an issue with the jump height, They are fine tuning it. Calm down.

Actually innovation means "to renew or change", it is often misused to describe improvements but the word innovation itself doesn't have anything to do with quality. In fact the quality might increase or decrease, and if you look at the way FFXIV tried to innovate from 11 at launch was clearly not a good result.

Jumping is not by any chance innovation when it comes to gaming.
As far as I can remember there has been jumping (probably even started earlier on all 3 examples, the point is however, it's not by any chance new)
- 2D jumping already on the NES
- 3D jumping already on the PS1
- MMO jumping already in WOW

Obviously to FFXIV it's innovation since it's a change, but so would be removing running speed. The point is really than in MMOs it's more of an innovation to not have jump since nowadays it's basically jumping on the bandwagon.

The point is that the lack of jump was simply a choice of design.

What however is the reason that jump is being implemented is that people want freedom. People want that the devs catter to every small silly complaint that they have, and now the devs are actually giving after, this is not good. The devs should make their own design choices, the fact that they are giving after makes me lose respect towards them. We should not get what we want like that, we should enjoy the game as it is uniquely intended.

When it comes to freedom, the most important part is to set the boundaries right, this is utterly important, freedom is good, but fail to set balance in the form of boundaries and it becomes uninteresting.

Now I'm not only talking about jump, but all the silly mounts that have been shown as well. It makes me wonder where this game is going next.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

"Standard." Says who? Ah, right. No innovation allowed. Sorry. SE has the chance to create an entirely new atmosphere for MMOs that doesn't rely on vertical jumping. But no, "we" all want vertical jumping and Lalafell jumping 10 feet in the air. Gotcha. Good thing "we" cleared that up. I'm glad you're here to talk for me and everyone else, as well as setting standards for games.

You mean the lalafell jump he showed then said "but I rejected this, it looked silly" right after? I think you think of yourself as a voice of reason into a barbaric era of MMOing, but honestly it's time to give it up. If you don't have a foundation to build on... you have nothing. SE cannot grow unless they make their game as free as it possibly can be. This is a great thing about MMOs.. and yes, that is a standard.

How can you sit back and ask, "Is it really a standard!?". Yes, free roaming is a standard. It's actually one of the more basic things required of MMOs. This will be my last reply. You are too ignorant to even debate with. It's incredibly saddening.

[Anty]

"Standard." Says who? Ah, right. No innovation allowed. Sorry. SE has the chance to create an entirely new atmosphere for MMOs that doesn't rely on vertical jumping. But no, "we" all want vertical jumping and Lalafell jumping 10 feet in the air. Gotcha. Good thing "we" cleared that up. I'm glad you're here to talk for me and everyone else, as well as setting standards for games.

leaving something out is by no means innovation...

[zaviermhigo]

They know the jump is too high, now we're flaming jump and they're like "crap we knew it looked like crap, shouldn't of shown it" lol. I'm anti jump anyway I've never needed it ever, and if this jump is for battle than i'm even more pissed, I do not want to have to jump dodge attacks, we have the programming already to dodge moves if you simply bothered to move your character instead of eating everything.

GW2, i'm sure it has jumping, but its more dodge based, it took innovation to the next level by adding aquatic combat, and having the x y become more important in that situation. Adding jump is not innovation its just garbled up crap that's useless in every game its ever been in. It was probably invented due to lazy programming, "i don't want to make a mountain they can actually walk up, instead they'll jump like a bunny up a moutain, yeah he's a badass wizard but he has to jump up a mountain isn't that cool?" HELL NO.

[nasomi]

Jumping makes me sad.....

Either lala's won't be able to jump over a dime, or they'll look like freaking super mario jumping over shit.