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  1. #21
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    I'd have to say, it's pretty easy. Not even close to as time consuming as I was expecting. This game already hands you everything on a silver platter.

    Isn't this streamlined mentality getting a little extreme? This is a game, you don't need everything right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braden View Post
    I'd have to say, it's pretty easy. Not even close to as time consuming as I was expecting. This game already hands you everything on a silver platter.

    Isn't this streamlined mentality getting a little extreme? This is a game, you don't need everything right now.
    People just want to be at the end collecting there tomes and afking in the hub zone and "helping/playing" with friends

    Its not about the journey anymore its just about getting to the end as quickly as possible and ignoring all the game has to offer at every stage. But this is more the devs having no back bone and giving in to the lazy entitled players who play for a couple weeks and leave then come back and leave again.
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    Last edited by bass9020; 06-26-2016 at 02:36 PM.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    People just want to be at the end collecting there tomes and afking in the hub zone and "helping/playing" with friends

    Its not about the journey anymore its just about getting to the end as quickly as possible and ignoring all the game has to offer at every stage. But this is more the devs having no back bone and giving in to the lazy entitled players who play for a couple weeks and leave then come back and leave again.
    I think you're entitled to be entertained by playing video games. What's wrong with that?
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pencardiel View Post
    I think you're entitled to be entertained by playing video games. What's wrong with that?
    If you can only find fun at the end of Final Fantasy XIV then the game must be doing something very wrong.
    With Final Fantasy MMO or not, it's always about the journey. Besides even at end game of FFXIV there's really not that much to do outside of savage and farming at the moment Nidhogg weapons.

    I wish more players could appreciate the journey of Final Fantasy XIV, there's more to the game than just the end game scene.
    I reckon if they axe the filler that has no place in a FF game eg: the packmule stuff it'd be more bearable for new players.
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    Last edited by Yasuhiro; 06-26-2016 at 02:50 PM.
    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pencardiel View Post
    I think you're entitled to be entertained by playing video games. What's wrong with that?
    Nothing is wrong with that but if everything is a one click button how is that any fun? Everything that this game was is diminishing into quick grabs everywhere.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    Nothing is wrong with that but if everything is a one click button how is that any fun? Everything that this game was is diminishing into quick grabs everywhere.
    Let's hope it won't be. But it isn't much fun grinding solo fates on three classes for tens of levels, either, or not being able to watch a cut scene in a dungeon because you're holding everyone up.

    I do like story in games, but in an MMO especially, there needs to be some compromise.
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  7. #27
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyHubris View Post
    -Axe the filler.
    -Frontload more skills.
    To be honest, I'd rather they provide skips than remove quest content entirely.

    I have a strong dislike for stories that I feel are rushed, and with the current ebb and flow of the story that includes things like "investigation dead ends" and other things others consider filler, I feel like the MSQ has achieved the kind of good pacing needed to tell a good story (it can't be all exciting action).

    That being said, there are a variety of MSQ quests that could be turned into "important" side quests the way we've been getting lately. Balance the experience so that you can either do those or run dungeons/FATES for the same overall level result alongside the main branch, and I'd be okay with that kind of compromise.
    While a late 2.4 or 2.5ish quest with Tataru feels like it creates a nice "calm before the storm" moment right before a lot of stuff goes down, it's not strictly necessary, so things like that could be attached to the side of the MSQ).


    Watched a favorite MMO of mine lose a lot of good story and world building quests in the name of convenience - I'd rather not see that happen here.

    I'm all for some front loading of skills, though - it's commonly mentioned that most classes don't feel like they come into their own until the mid 30s at the earliest, and I wouldn't at all mind seeing that number dropped to around 15, which can be achieved in the first day and will help new players feel like combat has more going for it much earlier.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanscott View Post
    There are some quests that could stand to be cut from the MSQ without screwing with the lore. Make them sidequests; problem solved. However, my gripe is simply all the walking from A to B to A to C to OVER 9000! Heck, simply having a insta-Chocoporter in West Thanalan to the Scion's clubhouse would be a God send as it would leave the lore intact while making the player's life easier.
    The one thing I constantly asked myself during the MSQ when I was starting out is what is the point of a linkshell if your going to force me to come ALL the way back to base to tell me all of 2 lines of text? Couldn't you just tell me to go see someone or investigate rather than wasting my time and money walking all the way back?
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  9. #29
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    Saito Hikari
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    I dunno, I started playing last August and I had a pretty easy time getting into this game compared to a lot of other MMOs out there.

    Although one of the major newbie gripes I had was how the devs should REALLY stick an aetheryte up on the northern part of Lower La Noscea. As a newbie that did not really know which zones led to where without aimlessly wandering around, teleporting to the docks and walking all the way up there was :/
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    I dunno, I started playing last August and I had a pretty easy time getting into this game compared to a lot of other MMOs out there.

    Although one of the major newbie gripes I had was how the devs should REALLY stick an aetheryte up on the northern part of Lower La Noscea. As a newbie that did not really know which zones led to where without aimlessly wandering around, teleporting to the docks and walking all the way up there was :/
    Teleport to Limsa and use aethernet to Lower Lanoscea.
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