PLD and sks

[Donjo]

I believe the answer for PLD is "as little as possible". SS benefits them less than any other tank in raw numbers(see Dervy's theorycrafting blog for up to date stat weights). This is because they're still the worst off when it comes to TP preservation and Sword Oath only enhances auto-attacks, which aren't sped up by Skill Speed.

The only significant application of it I can think of is the potential of getting three combos between each reapplication of Goring Blade but napkin math indicates that you'd need a GCD in the ballpark of 2.0s to pull that off. This isn't exactly feasible XD

[Februs]

The only significant application of it I can think of is the potential of getting three combos between each reapplication of Goring Blade but napkin math indicates that you'd need a GCD in the ballpark of 2.0s to pull that off. This isn't exactly feasible XD

I wish it was, though. I think it would be kind of fun to have such a ridiculous skill speed on Pld. It would make the job a bit more exciting to play, and I think being the fastest tank hands down would compensate a little for their generally lower dps and enmity gen; though, I haven't done the hard math on that ...

Fanciful daydreaming aside, skill speed is a wonky thing to work with on Pld. Having a little extra isn't terrible, but it seems like the default gear in the game provides far more than is necessary.

[Shurrikhan]

The only significant application of it I can think of is the potential of getting three combos between each reapplication of Goring Blade but napkin math indicates that you'd need a GCD in the ballpark of 2.0s to pull that off. This isn't exactly feasible XD

Was playing a few rounds of 'pad someone's dps' with some AST friends in normal Alexander once. Enhanced Arrow got me close enough the majority times not to miss a global DoT tick before refresh. But I had disgustingly high, TP-plummeting SS to begin with (around 2.33). Fun stuff.

Now if only my 1.9 GCD Monk rotation was TP-feasible. I already have the SS for that...

[Februs]

But I had disgustingly high, TP-plummeting SS to begin with (around 2.33). Fun stuff. Now if only my 1.9 GCD Monk rotation was TP-feasible. I already have the SS for that...

I feel you on this. The Tp adjustments they made in the last Pld patch stemmed my Tp bleeding for a bit, but with only a few upgraded gear pieces I'm already starting to feel the pinch again. I've noticed my Tp is already getting strained in any prolonged fights. It's still not quite as bad as it was before the patch, but it's slowly creeping back to that point. Without a viable means of sustaining Tp, Skill Speed is a dangerous stat to have on Pld.

[Shurrikhan]

I feel you on this. The Tp adjustments they made in the last Pld patch stemmed my Tp bleeding for a bit, but with only a few upgraded gear pieces I'm already starting to feel the pinch again. I've noticed my Tp is already getting strained in any prolonged fights. It's still not quite as bad as it was before the patch, but it's slowly creeping back to that point. Without a viable means of sustaining Tp, Skill Speed is a dangerous stat to have on Pld.

I just still want GLD to be the tactical speed-hitting tank who feels more dual-wield-y (Sword & Board) than a Rogue does... Sadly, TP generation oversights and unwillingness to meaningfully revisit class/job designs will make that impossible.

[Februs]

I just still want GLD to be the tactical speed-hitting tank who feels more dual-wield-y (Sword & Board) than a Rogue does... Sadly, TP generation oversights and unwillingness to meaningfully revisit class/job designs will make that impossible.

I couldn't agree more. There were a lot of early indicators that Gld was going in a different direction from Pld. I was really hoping for a much faster kit which placed more emphasis on build up, prepping, and alternating between the sword and shield, but Pld's kit totally destroyed that idea. Unsustainable Tp consumption practically cripples the job and has been a festering nightmare for a very long time now (on top of Pld's numerous other deficiencies). I'd really like to hope that SE might, someday, do something about it, but their last set of adjustments made it pretty clear that they'll never actually make any real and committed efforts to fix the job. The fact that they called those changes "major adjustments" was a pretty big kick in the nuts to that job. It would have been funny, if it wasn't so pathetic and sad.