Crossover possibility?

[Istaru]

I find the WoW hate pretty funny to be honest. Yoshida and Co use WoW as a design reference point and the game has a large number of WoW expats and current players playing it.

While I can't see exactly how they would pull it off, I certainly wouldn't say no to a murloc minion.

Yes, they take some design elements from WoW. For me, that is more than enough.

As far as the people from WoW that come play this game? The more the merrier with one caveat. This is a Final Fantasy game, it is not WoW, accept that it is not WoW and never should be.

Oh, I almost forgot to vote. My vote is nothing from WoW please.

[Teryaani]

Yes, they take some design elements from WoW. For me, that is more than enough.

As far as the people from WoW that come play this game? The more the merrier with one caveat. This is a Final Fantasy game, it is not WoW, accept that it is not WoW and never should be.

Oh, I almost forgot to vote. My vote is nothing from WoW please.

So this is a good example of what I was talking about. Why the derision? I don't play EVE or B&S or GW2 or Wildstar but I get why people do and can recognize when those games do something right. You guys act like WoW is some kind of disease when the reality is that all of these games have things in their DNA , mechanical - not lore, that would give you a better game experience.

[Istaru]

So this is a good example of what I was talking about. Why the derision? I don't play EVE or B&S or GW2 or Wildstar but I get why people do and can recognize when those games do something right. You guys act like WoW is some kind of disease when the reality is that all of these games have things in their DNA , mechanical - not lore, that would give you a better game experience.

My derision is simple. In both XI and XIV, I cannot tell you how many times I have heard that this feature or that feature or some other thing from WoW needs to be put into this game because without it the FF game is terrible and not worth playing. If I wanted to play WoW or experience its magnificence, I would play it. I am a Final Fantasy fan beyond anything else. Tell someone that something they love is crap or second to something else and you will see them develop a dislike of said thing.

I do dislike where they have taken the MMO market of late, not always, but it has grown over the last few years. The instant 100 being at the top of that list.

I am a long time Final Fantasy player, consoles and MMOs both. To me, the point of any Final Fantasy game is the story first, before anything else. That is why I played XI before and after the release of WoW, played both versions of this game instead of any other.

I cannot and will not say that I speak for everyone that has a dislike of WoW, just myself.

[Teryaani]

Real quick on topic before I continue derailment: I want to echo the kingdom hearts suggestion. Not the disney stuff because I suspect that they won't be able to get the rights to do it, but definitely some of the weapons and clothes.

and if they could get disney rights to things like Alice in Wonderland or TRON I would be a happy happy gamer.

My derision is simple. In both XI and XIV, I cannot tell you how many times I have heard that this feature or that feature or some other thing from WoW needs to be put into this game because without it the FF game is terrible and not worth playing. If I wanted to play WoW or experience its magnificence, I would play it. I am a Final Fantasy fan beyond anything else. Tell someone that something they love is crap or second to something else and you will see them develop a dislike of said thing.

So, here's the thing. You're not talking to a person who's saying that and I'm not going to apologize for those people. Just because some people are jerks doesn't mean that the game is awful. A portion of EVE's players are trolltastic, that doesn't mean that the sandbox elements of the game are terrible, just that those people are.

There are features of this game that I genuinely love. in fact, SE went to great measures to take the best bits to include in their games DNA. Thats a goodly part of why I'm playing this and not WoW right now. For me, it's a better fit.

The pet battle system? Not so much. The biggest thing I wish we could mirror from WoW right now is that, the next biggest is the variety of vanity toys.

I do dislike where they have taken the MMO market of late, not always, but it has grown over the last few years. The instant 100 being at the top of that list.

I'm not going to justify that bit of corporate money making. Their game is on it's way down the ladder and they're grabbing at what they can. Why Yoshi made an off the cuff comment about doing that here is beyond me. If he has any sense he won't do it.

I am a long time Final Fantasy player, consoles and MMOs both. To me, the point of any Final Fantasy game is the story first, before anything else. That is why I played XI before and after the release of WoW, played both versions of this game instead of any other.

I cannot and will not say that I speak for everyone that has a dislike of WoW, just myself.

It's tribal. I get it.

[Istaru]

My response wasn't directed at you personally. I was trying to answer your questions that you had asked earlier. It also seems that we partly agree so good for us.

[Teryaani]

My response wasn't directed at you personally. I was trying to answer your questions that you had asked earlier. It also seems that we partly agree so good for us.

No worries, i genuinely get it. Having someone trash talk a game you enjoy sucks. We had a lengthy chat with a guildie that came over from GW2 and wouldn't stop complaining. When we asked "why are you still playing?" his answer of "This game is better" caused us to facepalm.