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    So let's see. As an experiment I just reported a few extremely popular threads in the DPS forums for teaching new players how to play their class that link to YouTube videos with parsers and also include data from the parsers in the forum itself. Thus we'll see if "Square enforces it 100%." My thoughts are they don't and won't. Those posts will be on these forums long after I am gone. They tell us we're cheating and then look the other way. And that's wrong; just plain wrong. They need to pick a side and stick with it.

    I can almost ensure you that those posts will not be removed. It is 100% illegal, and 0% enforced making unwitting cheaters of us all; those that use the programs and those that are in guilds or parties that use the programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoqor View Post
    So let's see. As an experiment I just reported a few extremely popular threads in the DPS forums for teaching new players how to play their class that link to YouTube videos with parsers and also include data from the parsers in the forum itself. Thus we'll see if "Square enforces it 100%." My thoughts are they don't and won't. Those posts will be on these forums long after I am gone. They tell us we're cheating and then look the other way. And that's wrong; just plain wrong. They need to pick a side and stick with it.

    I can almost ensure you that those posts will not be removed. It is 100% illegal, and 0% enforced making unwitting cheaters of us all; those that use the programs and those that are in guilds or parties that use the programs.
    If you don't know your parse results how are you benefiting exactly? I think you're blowing this up. Laws are meant to create order and protect citizens. Unless someone harasses another with the results, which in itself is a violation, there is no reason to call foul. The act of parsing can, to some extent be done on paper. Using stone, sea, sky you can calculate a parse result, without using ACT. A majority of this forum populace wants a parser in some form, adopted into the game.

    They do not want you to be able to data mine for other player locations in PvP or finding hunts before others. That's the sort of thing that makes them against data mining.

    Those guides used parsers as evidence to show how to maximize your class, with video proof of what it can do for you. How nice of you to report them.

    Also a ToS is a threat. In the end SE is the interpreter of their own "law."
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 06-25-2016 at 02:29 AM.

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    In regards to your defense on parsing, you're preaching to the choir here. But that's not really what this is about. Per SE... running a parsing application is 100% illegal and against the ToS. The very act of doing it is a violation. Whether the purpose is altruistic and meant to help new players, or done for personal improvement, there is reason to call foul simply because it is against the rules.

    Per SE... it was nice that I reported those people for their helpful guides. I did the right thing. Unless told otherwise, those people that spent so much time working on theorycrafting to help new players, are actually cheaters. That's SE's point of view and that's what they tell new players through their ToS.
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    Last edited by zoqor; 06-25-2016 at 03:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoqor View Post
    They need to pick a side and stick with it.

    I can almost ensure you that those posts will not be removed. It is 100% illegal, and 0% enforced making unwitting cheaters of us all; those that use the programs and those that are in guilds or parties that use the programs.
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