Lore Incentive Is Ruining Duty Roulette

[Chiramu]

If they pull the next mobs then SS them when they are in combat or just forget about it. Low level dungeons don't really hit that hard, so the tanks just power on through. The tanks might like you to stay in Cleric longer as well so they get a faster run. Just make sure they have Protect up and keep any eye on the HP bars of everyone.

I don't like tanking for a group who is too slow. Too slow and too fast are both horrible ways to experience dungeons.

[Natashio]

I don't get this thread... How is even Lore incentive ruining low level dungeons in duty finder? I just had to do a double look and only level 60 dungeons give Lore and the daily leveling roulette give a tremendous whopping "5" Lore. Me being a level 60 tank would not even waste my time on a whopping 5 Lore. Now if you talking about Esoterics...

[DamianFatale]

Worst thing is if we get rid of rewards for roulette, there won't be as many people doing them. The lower level dungeons are 100% necessary, or else nobody will level up. EXP leves just don't do enough. If you don't have new players leveling up, the game will die. I honestly have no idea what SE should do about this.

On the bright side, my macro is working flawlessly. I can now cast protect, and stoneskin on every party member, at the click of one button. It also asks people to gather around, and wait as I give out the buffs. A few times a tank went away from my buffs, but I scolded him for it, and phase b of my plan worked. Though he probably had his tail between his legs, because he didn't say anything. That was just one of five dungeons though. cx

[Rufalus]

Worst thing is if we get rid of rewards for roulette, there won't be as many people doing them. The lower level dungeons are 100% necessary, or else nobody will level up. If you don't have new players leveling up, the game will die. I honestly have no idea what SE should do about this.

When they expand Grand Company content to give you a platoon of NPC allies, I think you may be able to run dungeons with them instead of players, but I'm not 100% clear on that as they won't talk in detail on this feature until it's nearer release, I'm just interpreting various dev interviews.

But yeah, if a tank player runs off at the start and you want to put Protect on them, just do when they stop at the first set of enemies. Heal them until the enemy mob is thinned out a bit, then when incoming damage is slow you have time to use Protect or whatever you want. You just adapt your style to work with their style and if nobody dies then we're all happy.

[CodingSquirrel]

On the bright side, my macro is working flawlessly. I can now cast protect, and stoneskin on every party member, at the click of one button. It also asks people to gather around, and wait as I give out the buffs. A few times a tank went away from my buffs, but I scolded him for it, and phase b of my plan worked. Though he probably had his tail between his legs, because he didn't say anything. That was just one of five dungeons though. cx

Ego trip much? You get off on this don't you.

[Azel_Rylal]

Ego trip much? You get off on this don't you.

He absolutely needs people to stand around as he casts his unimportant buffs. He made a thread telling us all that he's doing it, for no other reason than to make that point. What do you think? The amount of attention you're all giving him is probably making him light-headed.

[AdventZero]

I always laugh when I read threads like this. When ever I run a dungeon and try to do whatever I can to make it easier on the other members I get 0 comms at the end. Yet if I enter and just go "speed pulls, buckle up" and take off with no care other then speed and my own dps I tend to get 2-3 comms. You guys are saying one thing, then rewarding the other.

Honestly I'm starting to think the FFXIV's player base is really just a major tsundere about everything. "It..It's not like I want you to run off before I can buff you or anything, b-baka. ¬_¬;;."

Edit: just to clarify I never expect more then 1 comm in a run. By idle outcome I would like everyone to leave with at least one so they feel like their work was appreciated. In fact I feel bad when ever I leave with more then one cause it means some poor dps or healer didn't get one they deserved for a job well done.

[FallenArisen0990]

Honestly TC, Dailies don't teach you these things. Trials like Titan and Odin demand for constant moving. Sprint is a healer's best friend when needing to catch up or get that AoE heal in. In a sense, they are not fully to blame for it. I believe a lot of Vets here pull/kill fast. It's just something alot of us have developed over time. It's true it's not really fair to newcomers or newbie healers. I recommend doing those dailies with friends if it's hard to keep up with them. Trust me, once you learn where all your stuff is, you two will be healing and sprinting like it's second nature.

[Ninster]

A few things.

First, leveling roulette is, at level 60, worth a mere 5 lore. I'm not entirely sure about everyone else, but lately if I'm in a lore crunch I end up skipping leveling roulette entirely. That 100 esoterics, on the other hand, is pretty valuable right now. But I'm going to admit this is just picking for picking's sake.

Second, as far as setting up. Healer queues are rarely very long, but I tend to squeeze my time when I can. Ideally, I try not to if I'm healer or tank. Still, it can be a fairly bad scenario to switch jobs to commence, out in the field, and be loaded into the instance with everything still on cooldown. Even if you're ready, Protect and Stoneskin take a fair amount of time to cast. Personally, OP, I tend try my best to buff before or as the gate goes down. If the tank bails before Protect goes off, I don't bother casting again. I figure if people want their mitigation, they can wait for it. Alternatively, cast Protect during the first pull when you've got the tank's health at a manageable level.

Third, I really don't advocate going on a power trip, but if in doing my best, things fall apart, I advise the tank to take things a little easier. They learn the same lesson either way, but this way they at least can't pin you down as failing on purpose.

[hagare]

funny how all your definition of teamwork is "do what I say or I let you die" xD