Lore Incentive Is Ruining Duty Roulette

[ThatPlayer]

People like to be petty, and they also like to come here to try to justify it.

That's what I figured, I just wanted to make sure lol.

I main whm and previously mained SCH. If a tank runs off without protect, which usually happens, I just cast it in between heals. Really didn't think it was that big a deal lol. But yeah, let's wipe the party because a tank forgot a buff. Which negates the entire purpose of the buff.

[Chocolys]

Healer is much worse letting ppl die on purpose can be considered as griefing and waste time for everyone in there. For new ppl a bit faster run may ruin the run for them...abit but wiping whole time will just make it worse.

I assume you must have misread my message, as indicated I was talking about Laerune's earlier post in this thread which I will quote below for reference:

We all take some time to learn, sadly this is something some players do not understand. I was doing a mentor roulette few days ago and the tank kept chain pull, rushing as fast as possible. Both the tank and me were mentors. The newcomers wanted to explore the whole dungeon, but tank refused, the newcomers wanted to learn, so I explained stuff about the dungeons, I gave them tips about their class and even explained each boss and how to beat them. Tank was not having any of that, he kept rushing and insulting the newcomers for holding the group back.

Sadly before I could start a Vote-Kick, one of the newcomers could not handle it anymore and left. I regret not kicking him out sooner.

[MikeWW]

OP, I've decided there's no point trying to reason with you.

Can I get all your character names so I can try to get you vote kicked next time I am in a duty roulette with you.

[RaquelleAvarosa]

Read till page 9, and couldn't be bothered reading anymore replies. So pardon me if someone mentioned this before.
If your tank runs off without Protect, just recast when he stands still after pulling the bunch of mobs. No big deal.
"Oh but he will die if I'm not healing after he pulls all the mobs." Then your tank deserves to die for not popping CDs to tank through that 2seconds+, either that or your AST skill Essential Dignity isn't on your hotbar. That skill sits on a 40seconds CD and will definitely be up for every pull.
If you're just whining because things are not going your way, FFXIV isn't filled with cupcakes and rainbows. 2bad4you Patient people are to be expected in Mentor Roulette, but not so much on other roulettes.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

That's what I figured, I just wanted to make sure lol.

I main whm and previously mained SCH. If a tank runs off without protect, which usually happens, I just cast it in between heals. Really didn't think it was that big a deal lol. But yeah, let's wipe the party because a tank forgot a buff. Which negates the entire purpose of the buff.

A lot of people assume the tank's being a jerk when it easily could be they forgot or are so overgeared it's negligible regardless. I've certainly had my moments pulling without Grit because I turned it off for the boss. >.>

[CGMidlander]

So if a tank runs off without getting buffs, people let them die?

Because there's a rule or something somewhere that prevents you from casting it while he already has mobs?

Some people are prissy and get triggered easily. It seems to be a growing demographic.

If people try to challenge me in my role, I usually try to take on the challenge. (e.g. If DPS runs ahead of me while I'm tanking and pulls mobs, I take hate asap instead of throwing a tantrum. If a tank runs ahead immediately while I'm healing, I pop sprint and cast what I need to while keeping up.)

[Jetstream_Fox]

To all the healers who let tanks die when they don't have protect on, and think a negative mindset of letting the party all die because you're a special snowflake... Chris Jericho has something to tell you..

https://youtu.be/wWH-nbZXMqs.

[Atoli]

Really didn't think it was that big a deal lol. But yeah, let's wipe the party because a tank forgot a buff. Which negates the entire purpose of the buff.

^This.
Is it annoying when a tank storms off right away without waiting for buffs? Of course.
But does it hurt the party in any way?
No, it doesn't. It takes LITERALLY 1 second to cast Protect a second time (and if you are smart you targeted the tank from the get-go so even if not everyone got hit with Protect, he does have it at least, and no one else should be taking any dmg anyway.
Also, you can't "waste" Swiftcast. You can "use" it, that's all, and if you use it to speedily apply buffs on the fly instead of having it sitting on your hotbar unused the entire dungeon so you have it ready in the unlikely case that someone dies and you need to ress them, it is LESS "wasted"

I'm amazed there are people who actually wipe their party (something that takes a lot of time, sh*ts on everyone else's effort AND lastingly hurts them by forcing them into higher repair costs) over having to reapply a 1 second cast u_U

[Leadleaf]

You can call out the offensive behaviour and tell them to knock it off, if it is as terrible as you think it is, you should have no problem booting and replacing should it persist.
Or you can adapt to mistakes and playstyle differences and see if you can actually have the run over and done with sooner.
I'm really not interested in causing wilful disruption to the group (including two people who've nothing to do with the offender) just to spite some guy who'd more than likely forget you within the hour.

I'm amazed there are people who actually wipe their party (something that takes a lot of time, sh*ts on everyone else's effort AND lastingly hurts them by forcing them into higher repair costs) over having to reapply a 1 second cast u_U

As someone who does public roulettes a lot I can only count on one hand people who've did this spiteful heal/tank refusal since 2013 and I think alot of this is hot air.

[Crysten]

The kicker is this:

If a healer is struggling to keep up to the point the party is dying to speed pulls and they want me to slow down, I will amend my pull speed accordingly.

If speed pulls are going smoothly, and the healer is just complaining, I will not go any slower (why would I need to, we're doing fine).

If the healer is the OP and lets me die to make a point, I vote kick and replace with someone with a functioning pair of balls.