So if a tank runs off without getting buffs, people let them die?
Because there's a rule or something somewhere that prevents you from casting it while he already has mobs?

So if a tank runs off without getting buffs, people let them die?
Because there's a rule or something somewhere that prevents you from casting it while he already has mobs?

That's what I figured, I just wanted to make sure lol.
I main whm and previously mained SCH. If a tank runs off without protect, which usually happens, I just cast it in between heals. Really didn't think it was that big a deal lol. But yeah, let's wipe the party because a tank forgot a buff. Which negates the entire purpose of the buff.




A lot of people assume the tank's being a jerk when it easily could be they forgot or are so overgeared it's negligible regardless. I've certainly had my moments pulling without Grit because I turned it off for the boss. >.>That's what I figured, I just wanted to make sure lol.
I main whm and previously mained SCH. If a tank runs off without protect, which usually happens, I just cast it in between heals. Really didn't think it was that big a deal lol. But yeah, let's wipe the party because a tank forgot a buff. Which negates the entire purpose of the buff.



^This.
Is it annoying when a tank storms off right away without waiting for buffs? Of course.
But does it hurt the party in any way?
No, it doesn't. It takes LITERALLY 1 second to cast Protect a second time (and if you are smart you targeted the tank from the get-go so even if not everyone got hit with Protect, he does have it at least, and no one else should be taking any dmg anyway.
Also, you can't "waste" Swiftcast. You can "use" it, that's all, and if you use it to speedily apply buffs on the fly instead of having it sitting on your hotbar unused the entire dungeon so you have it ready in the unlikely case that someone dies and you need to ress them, it is LESS "wasted"
I'm amazed there are people who actually wipe their party (something that takes a lot of time, sh*ts on everyone else's effort AND lastingly hurts them by forcing them into higher repair costs) over having to reapply a 1 second cast u_U

You can call out the offensive behaviour and tell them to knock it off, if it is as terrible as you think it is, you should have no problem booting and replacing should it persist.
Or you can adapt to mistakes and playstyle differences and see if you can actually have the run over and done with sooner.
I'm really not interested in causing wilful disruption to the group (including two people who've nothing to do with the offender) just to spite some guy who'd more than likely forget you within the hour.
As someone who does public roulettes a lot I can only count on one hand people who've did this spiteful heal/tank refusal since 2013 and I think alot of this is hot air.



Tanking is so easy. You just pull big and pop cooldown with aoe threat generation.
OP, I've decided there's no point trying to reason with you.
Can I get all your character names so I can try to get you vote kicked next time I am in a duty roulette with you.
Last edited by MikeWW; 12-06-2016 at 06:31 AM.


Read till page 9, and couldn't be bothered reading anymore replies. So pardon me if someone mentioned this before.
If your tank runs off without Protect, just recast when he stands still after pulling the bunch of mobs. No big deal.
"Oh but he will die if I'm not healing after he pulls all the mobs." Then your tank deserves to die for not popping CDs to tank through that 2seconds+, either that or your AST skill Essential Dignity isn't on your hotbar. That skill sits on a 40seconds CD and will definitely be up for every pull.
If you're just whining because things are not going your way, FFXIV isn't filled with cupcakes and rainbows. 2bad4you Patient people are to be expected in Mentor Roulette, but not so much on other roulettes.
Some people are prissy and get triggered easily. It seems to be a growing demographic.
If people try to challenge me in my role, I usually try to take on the challenge. (e.g. If DPS runs ahead of me while I'm tanking and pulls mobs, I take hate asap instead of throwing a tantrum. If a tank runs ahead immediately while I'm healing, I pop sprint and cast what I need to while keeping up.)
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