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  1. #1
    Player
    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    An entire thread because your tank ran off at the start without something as trivial as Protect or Stoneskin? Next time just follow him and cast it when he sits still again. Or just say fuck it and not bother because the mitigation is pretty marginal anyway. I mean, would Protect and Stoneskin be nice to have? Sure, I guess. Mitigation is mitigation. But they're by no means necessary and their absence will never be the reason why you wiped so this all sounds like needless nitpicking to me.
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    An entire thread because your tank ran off at the start without something as trivial as Protect or Stoneskin? Next time just follow him and cast it when he sits still again. Or just say fuck it and not bother because the mitigation is pretty marginal anyway. I mean, would Protect and Stoneskin be nice to have? Sure, I guess. Mitigation is mitigation. But they're by no means necessary and their absence will never be the reason why you wiped so this all sounds like needless nitpicking to me.
    I can see it now in a savage group near you.

    *raid wipe*

    Tank: What happened to protect and stoneskin for that tank buster.

    Healer: Everyone told me that they were pretty marginal and not worth casting when leveling up. So lrn2tnk plzkthx.

    People keep complaining that people don't know how to play their jobs in high level content. How can they when they're not building the proper good habits while leveling up?
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    Last edited by Reiryuu; 06-24-2016 at 02:56 PM.

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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    I can see it now in a savage group near you.

    *raid wipe*

    Tank: What happened to protect and stoneskin for that tank buster.

    Healer: Everyone told me that they were pretty marginal and not worth casting when leveling up. So lrn2tnk plzkthx.

    People keep complaining that people don't know how to play their jobs in high level content. How can they when they're not building the proper good habits while leveling up?
    You're calling for an experience that doesn't happen as a comparison. No raid tank (In their raid) will just jump down the Alexander slide and pull the boss. There's going to be a bit of standing around, and then the tank will hit a 15-20 second pull macro.

    Also, the difference between your tank dying in one shot or not to putting a regen on the tank and not needing to heal again for the next 30 seconds is astounding. You're just trying to poke holes for silly reasons.
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    WeekendSoja's Avatar
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    Luku Asura
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Poor tanks, standing there for probably 10 seconds as they slowly die lol...seriously...you'd rather let him die because you couldn't practice pushing 2 pre-pull buttons...do you DPS? Is it like...really hard for you to juggle a total of 8 buttons in a pull? You should make a priorities list and maybe gauge your capability. Cause for dungeons that literally require the use of your first two cures infrequently to top a tank off is blowing your skill hole wide open, what are you going to do at 60? Glamour? This pet class your "training" sounds like a trophy piece to me and is an insult to people who enjoy efficiency.
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    Rachel Alucard
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Tanks are in short order and we want to cry that they are moving too fast?

    Git gud man
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    Cast in the name of god, ye not guilty

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    Melorie's Avatar
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    Melorie Valliere
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 81
    I love mass pulls. It's a great opportunity to actually train healing classes since when the dungeon from leveling roulette is slow, unless it's Aurum Vale or Stone Vigil I'll be almost sleeping most of the time. Imo you could stop letting the fact that you cannot put protect ruin your experience and enjoy the action of a fast run full of mass pulling. If the group wipe, it's a great opportunity to try again and everyone see their mistakes.
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    NolLacnala's Avatar
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    Nol Lac'nala
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 80
    When I get a turbotank, I SS/Protect during first pull and pop Sprint!
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    Character
    Pluie Pluvieux
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    I main SCH and normally on lower level dgns i only cast protect and then sprint!!!
    Stop just on a save distance from the mobs and wait.
    Most tank like to just run out get mobs and pray their healer is strong enough to heal him/her.
    Well i do the opposite. I wanted tank to pull as much as he can.sometimes i pull some mobs that he didn't pull.
    If i get sprouts on my team though , i tend to run slower and wait for the sprouts , just in case they need some help with things
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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    this strange, I almost exclusively play healer, the only thing people wait for is protect. If they run without stone skin I dont make a big fuss, yeah is a bit of a struggle for a few but after that is all fine. Only once I did have an occurrence where tank didnt wait nor for protect or stone skin I let him without..and he was fine without and I too.. It was in Anti Tower ! and I mean the whole fight.

    OP, I dont think you have space to complain about anything, especially that, from the looks of it, you were unprepared. I would suggest the following dont play healer if applying a mere stone skin /protect is stressing you out this much, it is visibly not for you. There is no bad behaviour sometimes they just dont think of it and if they dont listen to you, then so be it, do your best as best as you can with the cards handed to you. You always have space to tell him if he dies that he should have waited 1 sec for protect to be applied maybe he would have survived longer. You just have to understand that if someone dies it is sometimes if not often not necesseraly your fault, once you have understood this...is sooo easy
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    Character
    Kaizen Corrinthian
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    The sensitivity of the player base here is always astonishing to me. What's equally astonishing is an outright refusal to grow and adapt. Gain more bearing and a healthy dose of situational awareness or any more leveling you do will be riddled with more experiences like this. I'd rather not have the forums continue with nonsensical posts every time someone can't think one more step ahead.
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