Hullbreaker HM is an example of how dungeons shouldn't be designed.

[Phireblast]

1. Bland layout and/or concept.

It's basically Halatali HM(which was also boring imo) but on Gilligan's island. Not only it doesn't really try to hide the fact it's a mere hallway, but it even mostly used the pathways of normal mode. You can still make a hard mode dungeon feel like it's something completely different. Examples of something that tried this was Lost City and Copperbell.


There's also the "show your power to these people!" tidbit except you're fighting the Maelstrom. That's cool and all, but didn't you guys already do this with Halatali?


2. The boss fights aren't engaging.

The first boss(if you even want to call that a boss...) is just straight up adds. Boss fights like these can be fine if executed in an interesting manner, but this dungeon failed to do that. They were just....adds. That's it. Nothing really dangerous outside of a few conal aoes that gave vuln stacks. They're just...adds.

Although I am annoyed that Ymir gives the middle finger to melee, that isn't where my gripes come from. To me, the mechanics only existed there as a "oh, just make the boss do this so the player thinks there's some type of difficulty" rather than "let's make these mechanics interesting like what we did with sohr khai!". Some examples are the shell switching that completely ruins openers and the ice skating rolling rink of death(except pretty much a good chunk of the place is death).

Mistbeard in concept is a cool boss fight. Everything else, not so. The fight is literally a striking dummy since most of the mechanics aren't dangerous. The main worrying mechanic, Dirty Venom isn't even always a threat. There were times where my party didn't even get the debuff at all for the entire fight.

This dungeon singlehandedly made me stop playing Expert. It's already extremely easy to cap lore tomes(seriously, have you tried aquapolis? It FEEDS you an unhealthy amount of lore tomes) as it is, and there are better sources for esoterics. It's just not worth it.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

To each their own but i enjoyed it, beats the original at least.

[Dumbledoremd]

To each their own but i enjoyed it, beats the original at least.

HELL NO the original was 100 X better

[Ashewalker]

HELL NO the original was 100 X better

Because you fight a.... tentacle monster?... Or because its the Kraken?... Eitherway... don't bring your kinks of tentacle porn here...

[Dumbledoremd]

Because you fight a.... tentacle monster?... Or because its the Kraken?... Eitherway... don't bring your kinks of tentacle porn here...

I just enjoyed it more hm was faceroll content

[MomomiMomi]

Vote Hullbreaker HM for worst dungeon!

[Kaurie]

Vote Hullbreaker HM for worst dungeon!

Haha well I dislike it, but it's mostly that I find it boring - rather than actively hating it. So, I wouldn't say worst dungeon. Personally, I place the following below it: Aurum Vale, Stone Vigil, Qarn NM, Arboretum, Pharos HM, Stone Vigil HM, and Snowcloak.

[bass9020]

Haha well I dislike it, but it's mostly that I find it boring - rather than actively hating it. So, I wouldn't say worst dungeon. Personally, I place the following below it: Aurum Vale, Stone Vigil, Qarn NM, Arboretum, Pharos HM, Stone Vigil HM, and Snowcloak.

Well get ready for Snowcloack HM because its the next dungeon in 3.4! Hopefully its a bit more interesting!

[Teryaani]

**Snip**Stone Vigil HM **Snip**

I didn't mind Snowcloak (the music helps I think, and it's pretty quick) but this one...Oh this one. It's one to two trash encounters too long at each boss and just feels tedious. At least with the original it didn't feel like it dragged as much and i knew that a possibly pretty glamour weapon waited for me at the end. Stone Vigil HM had none of that. The others you listed sucked as well, but SVHM would get my vote for worst.

[Kaurie]

I didn't mind Snowcloak (the music helps I think, and it's pretty quick) but this one...Oh this one. It's one to two trash encounters too long at each boss and just feels tedious. At least with the original it didn't feel like it dragged as much and i knew that a possibly pretty glamour weapon waited for me at the end. Stone Vigil HM had none of that. The others you listed sucked as well, but SVHM would get my vote for worst.

Yeah, to each their own kinda thing :P I personally hate the Snowcloak music and is one of the biggest reasons I hate going there. It makes me want to sleep

Well get ready for Snowcloack HM because its the next dungeon in 3.4! Hopefully its a bit more interesting!

Haha yeah well definitely some dungeons change drastically from reg to HM (like I loved Hullbreaker nm for example, and Tam Tara HM was amazing vs the meh Tam Tara NM)