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    Enkidoh's Avatar
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Again, I'm just going to put it down to gameplay and story segregation - narrative wise you only ever travel into a dungeon or raid or duty once. Concepts like Duty Roulette are ignored by the storyline.

    The only times you travel back into a dungeon a second time are for the hard mode version (the hard mode storylines are usually attempts are made to clean out or restore the dungeon after the player went into it, only for the authorities to discover we didn't really do a very good job and that there is still something evil in there, and we're roped into dealing with it). So narrative wise, repeating a dungeon is ignored by the game's storyline, you only ever fought through it once.

    "BUUUUT ENKI!!!" I hear you say. "What about things like atma books directing you to do a certain dungeon? Or the anima weapon quests doing the same?" Well, again narrative wise that is not actually part of the story despite appearances. You're being told to enter it by a game menu, not part of the storyline. There are situations where sidequests involve a certain dungeon (specifically, some of the Grand Company quests coincide with a separate sidequest to unlock the Aurum Vale and Dzmael Darkhold), but those seem to be exceptions, and even they can be handwaved away that despite being separate stories, actually are concurrent in the narrative (in other words, despite accessing those quests separately, story wise you did them both at the same time).

    This was confirmed back during one of the Fanfests when Ferne explained that the game's narrative does not flow according to how the player might play through content - it instead has it's own set narrative flow that ignores gameplay (this was specifically used to explain why a player could do the level 50 CUL quest featuring making a meal for a certain Sultana of Ul'dah, even after having done the 2.55 story where... you know.. she was kind of put on a bus for an extended period and considered for all intents and purposes, deader than dead (of course that particular bus came back, but we didn't know it at the time. ).

    So basically, regardless of how you undertake content in the game, the game's storyline has a specific, structured chronology that ignores in what order players may actually undertake it, so a little suspension of disbelief is required here to make it all work.
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    Ritza Solair
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    I'll take my personal headcannon: 1st time u win is "real" rest are just non-stop waking nightmares made from entering a "Dream Dimension" (mentally only) & only that which u "take" or "aquire" in said place can leave with u Aethericly recreated into u'r inventory (The Tomestones were never really there.... NEVER! well cept whatever tomes u origionally got when content was new). If u fail said 1st try & have to re-DF well congrats u just palayed out a "What-if" attempt in u'r head using said "Alter-Mind realm" unconciously (to explain random gear u got from the half-run that u just go "Uh when did I... maybe at the market from that trader I can't remember?") & thus all those ppl u meat in DF (Be it pre-made or full randoms is just a crap ton of Echo users have 1 big ass shared nightmare... the PTSD is real & causeing memory confusion). as for the open world tele's NPC's explained that nicely, just we're "Special" & can do it way more than a normal person (normal non-echo ppl maybe 1 a week, echo users 4-5 a day, WoL's un-frigin-limited), I wanna know who's taking my Gil every teleport -_-*

    What due u expect the the worlds most adept, fast-learning, rich, badass, God-blessed, ever-reviving Hobo... pure wide-eyed impossibility 24/7 with short bursts of Normality
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    Last edited by The_NPC; 06-25-2016 at 04:29 AM.
    What some see as "distracted" is really "fathoming the unfathomable" - last words from an Ul'dahn Mercurial Chemister at the battle of Carteneau

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    Maiko Raines
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    Simplest answer...

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    Shalala Shala
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    Those aren't canon
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