3.4 speculation

**Nalien** · 07-24-2016 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by PArcher

Fear most likely. They've likely been brainwashed into thinking the Eorzeans will just kill them should they surrender, even though thats not really the case.

Dude... The most reason I ever needed to slaughter them was "Because an Animus book told me to", we're no saints... At least with the beast tribes we have the justification that they've definitely been brainwashed (and murder is already how we "fix" tempering), though it's slightly odd with the Sylphs, after Ramuh was all for Jolly Cooperation...

I actually wonder if they have been brainwashed though... There was a scene in 1.0 in which Garleans brainwashed children, no idea if that was carried over though... Most of the Garleans we've spoken to don't seem brainwashed though... They mostly just view us as savages, because Cid didn't care to share magitek air conditioning with us... A few actually seem like reasonable men, concerned about their families back home...

**Theodric** · 07-24-2016 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by Nalien

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It's a common trope for 'adventurers' in fantasy settings to do anything and everything for a bit of coin or because someone tells them to do it, too. Heck, don't some of the Grand Company hunt bills sometimes include killing Garleans in exchange for seals? Arguably that sort of thing just turns casual slaughter into a sport. As for the actual brainwashing...you're correct in that it is apparently something shown explicitly in 1.0 but - to my knowledge - it isn't shown in 2.0. It is very much like Gridania - the place was a lot more 'horrible' back then but now it's fairly 'light' on the darker elements. 1.0 was in some ways darker overall though - which is something I find myself missing.

At any rate it's worth noting that they were specifically loyal to Gaius and may be stubbornly fighting on his name. He was quite the inspirational figure, it seems, since Livia was especially devoted to him and there's a lot of players who genuinely wanted to side with him back when he made an offer to the Warrior of Light back in The Praetorium. Gaius also had a long string of victories under his belt and, presumably, inspired many of his men to the point where they wouldn't need to be brainwashed.

**ChazNatlo** · 07-24-2016 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Theodric

It's a common trope for 'adventurers' in fantasy settings to do anything and everything for a bit of coin or because someone tells them to do it, too. Heck, don't some of the Grand Company hunt bills sometimes include killing Garleans in exchange for seals? Arguably that sort of thing just turns casual slaughter into a sport.

Technically, I think the Grand Company Hunts are supposed to be threat Elimination (I imagine it as Culling when applied to lesser non-hostile creatures. They're over populating (Probably because you just killed their predators last week)), for which you are rewarded, rather than sport. Amusingly, this would suggest that the Grand Companies ((The Flames in particular)) still see the Garleans as a threat for some reason.

**PArcher** · 07-24-2016 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Nalien

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Well, the problem with using Hunts and Relic as justification is its not MSQ cannon...technically, we don't do that stuff.

If you go through the Tales of the Calamity, I'm 99% sure that Kan-E took a former Garlean soldier as one of her personal guard (think its the same guy who follows her in Heavensward too), so there is precedent that the Alliance is willing to allow Garlean soldiers to work their way into their society.

As far as the brainwashing...more that they're told Eorzeans are nothing but savages who *need* the Garleans to look over them like children, and until they're conquered and forced to submit they'll keep throwing this "tantrum" of resistance.

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