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    I stand corrected on Derplander. I'm still looking for a citation on the Echo buff.

    But I did find an interesting comment on Reddit:

    "The power to break down the barriers of existence"
    This sentence does a better job at conveying the meaning of the original Japanese word than "echo" does. "超える力" (koeru chikara) means "the power to overcome", or "the power to exceed (limits)" or "the power to cross (barriers)".
    EDIT: Hey, Aonymoose, here's something for you to try digging for. Supposedly, Minfilia's manifestation of the Echo allowed her to glimpse the future on rare occasions. It was mentioned once or twice in 1.0. While I admit this deals a blow to the theory currently under discussion, since the 2.0 story has a habit of linking back to and bringing back obscure 1.0 plot points, its worth looking into, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisa180 View Post
    Hey, Aonymoose, here's something for you to try digging for. Supposedly, Minfilia's manifestation of the Echo allowed her to glimpse the future on rare occasions. It was mentioned once or twice in 1.0. While I admit this deals a blow to the theory currently under discussion, since the 2.0 story has a habit of linking back to and bringing back obscure 1.0 plot points, its worth looking into, I think.
    Any idea where this was supposedly mentioned? I have all of 1.0's lore and quest data backed up and I took a peruse through the main scenario, then every mention of Minfilia in general, and then actually every mention of the word "future" in the game and (unless I skimmed over something) there was nothing of the sort that I could see. The only people who've made a claim to know the future are Urianger (who was putting faith in the prophecies of Mezaya Thousand Eyes about the coming Calamity) and Jihli Aliapoh, who is part of the holiday arcs and doesn't seem to have the Echo, anyway. Got anything that can help me zero in on a place to look?

    [EDIT] Still trying different ideas for digging. Found a weird one-liner from a Small Talk NPC that I'd forgotten all about.

    We are each blessed in different ways. While I was given the gift of farsight, the gods did not see fit to grant me with the ability to comprehend languages. What of you, [PLAYER NAME]? Have you spoken with our visitors? Were you able to understand them? Something tells me you will prove our savior this day.
    While it doesn't go into specifics, farsight has a few ways to be interpreted, one of which being knowledge of events before they happen. Unfortunately, though, this line exists only in English and the word farsight is never used in English again. In all other languages, this NPC is simply saying, "I didn't understand the sylphs at all. You have the Echo, right? Did you?"
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