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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post

    SECOND, why just why you wanna get involve and continue this why? Who are you? Have you ever showed up on the lore threads before?

    Dont come here for the "first time" acting so rude and saing off topic things, of a discussion that long since ended. Please.
    Oh god. This is the Lore section not the Embarrass Yourself section.

    On the topic at hand, It's quite hard to come to a conclusion about the whole Word of the Mother thing. She obviously acted in desperation and didn't know the consequences, especially now everyone acts as if "our" Minfillia is dead. I think that there is something of her still left though, in the Antitower stuff, she switches between I and We, so I don't think she is 100% 'converted' but she's just playing the part to not give us hope that she can be saved.

    And Theo mentioned the "lost and alone" bit. I really don't like that, because out of everyone Minfillia trusted her friends and had faith in them the most....Hydaelyn could still be a liar.
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    Honestly, feel like Thancred might jump on the "Hydaelyn is bad news" boat it considering he's revealed to think of Mini in a little sister/daughter figure way. That said, I feel this back and forth we're having is the full intention of the direction of the story.

    At the very least, Hydaelyn isn't hitting Etro territory of being a goddes that's painfully shitty at her job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    How so, specifically? Seems like it would also parallel, say, the British Empire and the Indian subcontinent. Or the Japanese conquering other countries and parts of the mainland during WW2. China vs Tibet. What specifically makes the expansion of the US and the Native Americans the best example?
    Because it is easier for your people to relate. The fact this doesn't even cross your minds speaks for itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Martyrdom doesn't sit well with me, either!

    Hydaelyn called Minfilia, when she was in no danger, and told her to run back into Flow - which Hydaelyn used to guide Minfilia to the Astral Aetherial Sea, where Hydaelyn was unable to communicate with her. Hydaelyn had to have known from the first that would be the end result. So Minfilia prayed and asked to help, and ended up getting assimilated by Hydaelyn.

    I am not okay with this. At all. We've been fighting and killing for a long, long while now. If all our effort has done nothing but buy time... what was it all for? Is there no place in this world for Minfilia? If it means another tomorrow for the world then it's okay Minfilia had to die? What the hell is that?! I don't ever want to hear that again...

    Necessary? Maybe, but I find that a contentious issue. It is in no way okay, though.
    I....have a feeling that Minfilia is going to be herself again down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    At the very least, Hydaelyn isn't hitting Etro territory of being a goddes that's painfully shitty at her job.
    xDDDDDDDD
    This is true, but Etro did some good things, like give humans emotion through shards of chaos and control the cycle of death and rebirth....her other choices were stupid though >.<

    I'd honestly love there to be branching stories in this game so we could decide which factions we like, whether Hydy is a narsty crystal and so on...but I doubt it'll happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    I....have a feeling that Minfilia is going to be herself again down the road.
    If you talk to Matoya right now (I don't know if it was the same before finishing 3.3, it didn't occur to me to check), she talks about how Alphinaud was frequently visiting her cave to research, and from what she gleaned from his mumblings it was related to how untangle merged sources of aether.

    It could be just related to Estinien...but given the means by which we did that didn't seen to involve any dice rolls for scholarly knowledge checks, it's either one heck of a random piece of conversation or it's hinting at SE's current plan moving forward regarding Minfilia.
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    I'd actually prefer Minfilia's fate to be sealed and tragic. Imagine how deliciously dark it would be if - after the situation with Estinien - the Scions grew overconfident and believed that they could save Minfilia as well...only for it to go horribly wrong.

    It'd also help mitigate the issue of there being a little too many 'close calls' where both major and minor characters are concerned. Death for the sake of death is very cheap and not very desirable but on the other end of the spectrum where death is cheapened by bringing the bulk of characters back from the 'dead' or similarly grisly fates is just as dubious in my eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'd actually prefer Minfilia's fate to be sealed and tragic. Imagine how deliciously dark it would be if - after the situation with Estinien - the Scions grew overconfident and believed that they could save Minfilia as well...only for it to go horribly wrong.
    On the flip side, assuming your Hydaelyn is evil theory, they could rescue Minfillia's body, but that isn't the head of the scions behind her eyes. Let the Characters work their asses off to save their friend. It's not like it'll stop Moenbryda, Iceheart, Hauchefant, anyone that was in the waking sands when the Livia showed up, possibly Doga and Unei... I'm probably forgetting a few more... from still being dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    I....have a feeling that Minfilia is going to be herself again down the road.
    False until it can be proven true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'd actually prefer Minfilia's fate to be sealed and tragic.
    Which, to be fair, is a possible result of the direction SE is possibly hinting at anyway. Assuming that it is related to Minfilia (while I don't think it's related to Estinien for the reasons I gave above, it's not something I'm 100% certain about), it realistically only hints at what Alphinaud plans on doing...

    Not that he'll be successful.
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