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  1. 07-18-2016 05:53 AM #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    We gave you concrete evidence and you said that this debate is not rational? wow.. okay
    You didn't, really. I pointed out - repeatedly - that the Garleans are painted in a negative light largely because we haven't seen their side of the story. It's much in the same way as how the situation with the Dravanians played out. How many people brushed them off as mindless beasts to be slaughtered because they were 'evil' up until the 'big reveal', I wonder? Quite a few, I imagine. In fact if you go through the older threads on this board then there's many posts to be found regarding such matters.

    If you don't agree, that's fine. There's no need to make it personal though, especially with the horrid associations with supporting Nazi Germany. Will I get a genuine apology for that, I wonder? I doubt it very much. To me it just cements my concerns that quite a few vocal posters here are more than willing to get nasty and seek to drive away people with different opinions to them. Which wouldn't be unusual for a site like this - coming from a WoW background I am well aware of the bizarre and weird lengths at which people go to in order to defend their favoured faction or race.

    Add to that a hive mind mentality and it makes for a dangerous combination...especially when the number of active posters is rather small to begin with.
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  2. 07-18-2016 06:12 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    YAdd to that a hive mind mentality and it makes for a dangerous combination...especially when the number of active posters is rather small to begin with.
    Or...maybe, just maybe...everyone is against you because you are so wrong we can't believe how you're able to keep going.

    Its as if you believe the earth is flat.
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  3. 07-18-2016 06:59 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Or...maybe, just maybe...everyone is against you because you are so wrong we can't believe how you're able to keep going.

    Its as if you believe the earth is flat.
    I think you might be taking it a little seriously, as mentioned we don't know enough to outright call them nazis, much less people who are interested in seeing more about garlemald AS an empire and a country with more sympathetic people, not just generic evil doers and something we defeat and recreate into a new government.
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  4. 07-18-2016 08:59 PM #4
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    Am I a fan of Garlemeld? Not really.

    Do I want to decimate whole cities and spearhead an effort to wipe them off the face of the earth? Again, not really.

    Indeed, when given a glimpse at their perspective, they think we're either ignorant or backward, that we are slapping away the chance to be saved. There has to be some facts that make them believe this, and I doubt its "magically induced brainwashing", especially after the story of Ishgard and given the presence of Cid and other NPCs. Facts that would get people from other nations to believe the Garlean cause.

    Will there be those that will think that annihilating the Garleans will be the only way? Probably. And It'll be just as unnerving if they get their way. Because as far as our immortal chessmasters hoping to sow death and destruction are concerned, does it really matter who does the deed, so much as it is done by someone?

    (And if Cid would end up totally on board with destroying his own country well that would just piss me off. )
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  5. 07-18-2016 07:38 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Add to that a hive mind mentality and it makes for a dangerous combination...especially when the number of active posters is rather small to begin with.
    Just wow..... Cilia gaves you concrete evidence, I gave you concrete evidence and Parcher too.
    But you still think we have a hive mind and saing irracional things.

    Just by adding the music of the garlean empire is very similar in some way to the all known popular song of Dark Vader. Common.

    Little ppl supports you. Just admit we are right in what we are saing.

    Also what made the Nazi german evil was Hitler, Gobbels and the SS. But the people of its nation, some did not agree, just remember Operation Valkyrie.

    Garleam empire is similar. A militar dictatorship. But of couse there could be someone on the army that doest agree with this. I agree that is posible we may become allies with one of the unknow legatus.
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