Thread: 3.4 speculation

Originally Posted by PArcher

Don't forget the Echo is different for everyone, except for the protection from Primal influence. It's very possible for it to give an increased sense of foresight/limited visions of the future to someone

Gotta do it!

Clairvoyance? Possible!

Originally Posted by KarstenS

The exact sentence was: "Da ertrage ich Lahabreas wichtigtuerische Präsenz, um einer Sterblichen die Kräfte einer Göttin zu verleihen, und du machst alles zunichte!"

I can't give a precise translation of it. The first part is his personal opinion about Lahabrea (and also the hint that it was Lahabreas idea), the second part is about him (Nabriales) giving goodlike power to a female person and the last part is about we did destroy it.

Google translate is amazing, y'know!

... an approximate but not precise translation of the line is "I endured Lahabrea's pompous attitude to give a mortal the powers of a goddess, and you made all my effort amount to nothing!"

I always figured it was Lahabrea or Nabriales. Really couldn't have been anyone else. Exactly which of the two is a bit of a moot point though - the Ascians taught Ysayle to summon, and we know better than to trust the Ascians. So no full-scale summoning for us, ever. Probably.

Originally Posted by Kallera

I find it difficult speculating for 3.4, partially because the only thing that even piques my interest is Derplander's team and maybe Regula van Hydrus. One's gonna get shunted to the stinger(spoilers: its Derplander), and the other...well I haven't played 6, so i don't see the appeal of Kefka, particularly a Kefka that doesn't succeed in fostering great changes in the setting. I just don't see that yet in Hydrus, or any Garlean antagonist. They seem like bowling pins to knock down.

I feel the same, though for my part it's mostly because there's just no major story threads in the foreground right now. The Dragonsong War has been in the forefront almost since the tail end of 2.3, so we're really bereft of much of anything to try and deduce future development from.

... except the Triad, Garlemald, and Ala Mhigo. Those are the only story hooks active right now.

Spoilers! I've never played VI, at least, not in its entirety - I got to the end of the first act and found it kind of boring. I did greatly enjoy Kefka's character (and gameplay) in Dissidia, though, and can easily understand why he'd be as popular as he is. That said I'm just following a logical pathway to the "Regula - Kefka" theory, though it is but one of myriad possibilities.

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It should be noted that, while we have yet to suffer a major loss to the Garleans in-story, we've not dealt with them full force yet. 1.x players went up against van Darnus' VIIth, and though they did succeed in killing him did so too late to stop the Calamity. The XIVth was a major threat in the last act of 2.0 and, despite being a rogue unit without official Garlean support, would have won were it not for a literal divine intervention from Hydaelyn. We have yet to see what they're truly capable of.

And putting the VIth on the Floating Continent (Azys Lla), with magitek research facilities, and the Warring Triad? That's a disaster just waiting to happen.

I feel like it'd feel a bit too contrived for Yda to turn out to be royalty. I already found it to be a bit awkward when Aymeric just happened to be the son of the Archbishop. Personally I'm hoping that if Ala Mhigo is 'reclaimed' it involves the establishment of some sort of council that boasts both an Ala Mhigan and Garlean presence. It is, after all, a place where many Garleans have lived side by side with Ala Mhigans for over two decades. Even if it isn't a mutually beneficial relationship...what, exactly, is the Ala Mhigan Resistance/Eorzean Alliance going to do with the Garleans (including civilians) living there? Exile them? Kill them? Imprison them? Force them to side with their cause and have the Garleans betray their homeland and people?

I want the situation in Ala Mhigo to be interesting and complicated with blood on the hands of all parties involved. Not a dull, cliche tale about the self proclaimed heroes taking back their homeland from an evil empire. I've said this before but The Arcadian Empire in FFXII is the perfect model to do Garlemald justice.

Although I agree with you Theodric that it's highly unlikely that Yda turns out to be a long-lost heir to the Ala Mhigan throne (apart from Papalymo using Rhalgr as an exclamation there is absolutely zero evidence to prove that they even came from Ala Mhigo originally, and the only time she has ever mentioned her family was an off-handed reference to her mother in 1.0, stating "My mother always told me I was destined for great things!", to which Papalymo rolled his eyes, so that doesn't even count), we've already argued this repeatedly in the past that SE themselves have consistently depicted Garlemald as nothing but an evil empire only interested in conquest (hell, this was the only reason Gaius wanted to 'save' Eorzea from Meteor - he wanted a land to conquer which he all but shouted in 1.0). Like it or not, it seems SE are more using the Gestahl Empire from FFVI as Garlemald's model (with a little bit of Paramekia from FFII thrown in for good measure) than the Archadian Empire in FFXII (even the names are similar).

Although I do not believe Ala Mhigo would restore it's monarchy once the inevitable liberation of the city occurs (given that the nasty aspects of Ala Mhigo's monarchy have not yet been forgotten, namely, the final King of Ruin's tumultuous and disastrous reign, which is what opened the door for Garlemald to move in and take over in the first place - the Resistance has never once stated they want to restore the nation to a monarchy, they just want to liberate the citystate from Garlean control), the fact that Ishgard went from being originally an autocratic monarchy to an autocratic theocracy to a parliamentary democracy, there is hope that the Ala Mhigo resistance could establish a working democratic government answerable to their people as well.

Or maybe I'm just a dreamer...