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    I probably shouldn't be doing this after people indulged me in my "Regula - Kefka" theory (though I don't think anyone really bit) but...

    Pretty sure we're "done" done with Heavensward as a storyline; we won't be revisiting 3.0 areas to learn more details about the Dragonsong War and such since we already know the whole truth. Instead we'll be revisiting 2.0 areas probably, since if 4.0 is going to take us to Ala Mhigo and the only route there through Ishgard is via Xelphatol, I doubt it's going to be our primary entry point. Capturing Castrum Oriens and then using it as a staging ground for the war seems most likely...

    ... though if Alisae is going to take the protagonist role from Alphinaud for 4.0, whether or not we'll be working closely with the GCs remains up in the air.

    (Don't think she's going to be revealed to have SMN arts, Phoenix-egi, and the Echo. Don't get greedy now!)

    It was either Lahabrea or Nabriales who taught Ysayle to summon - just further proof we probably won't ever do it ourselves, since we know better than to trust the Ascians.

    Ramuh's conjecture on light and darkness was just that - conjecture. He's only a few centuries old (~1,500 years tops) so unless he has access to Hydaelyn's memories he doesn't really know the truth behind it all. He was basically doing as we do here - "theorizing."

    I remain unconvinced the WoDs and the people from Unukalhai's tale are one and the same. Their MOs are vastly different and we've not seen the WoDs do anything but kill Ravana, rough us up, and then observe from a safe distance. My hypothesis is that they're extra-continual WoLs from a "reflection" whose world was destroyed - in the 7th Umbral Calamity, no less - brought here and observed by Elidibus to get revenge on Hydaelyn by striking at an opportune moment to make bad go worse. Somehow. Somewhere. Sometime. Eventually. Possibly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    (Don't think she's going to be revealed to have SMN arts, Phoenix-egi, and the Echo. Don't get greedy now!)
    She was present at the slaying of two Primals; Phoenix and Bahamut. Phoenix-egi makes much more sense than Bahamut-egi.

    As for the Echo, Ive thought she's had it since 2.55; her foresight there is too uncanny to be just intuition.

    As an aside, I also feel Alph has it as well...he's just not awoken to it at all yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    As for the Echo, Ive thought she's had it since 2.55; her foresight there is too uncanny to be just intuition.
    Since when has the Echo given us foresight, though? It lets us see past events, not future ones... For it to even have had any function in the events of 2.55, she'd also have to have been in contact with those involved to use Echo hacks to gain any insight into what was going on and it would have to have been on the spot, which doesn't give a lot of time to recover and set a clear course of action to aid us... It seems more likely to me that she just figured something was up, presumably Crystal Braves were setting up to secure the area, and were I her, I'd find it odd if my brothers militia was hanging around and he'd never informed me of it... Not hard to then be prepared for them, then send aid when events take a turn... Didn't Urianger also put in special protective measures following Lahabrea/Livia storming the place way back? Seems much more likely to me that the Waking Sands was just targeted after we entered the trap, but not before it was sprung... That gives her enough time to piece together what's happening and send the small amount of aid we received from her...

    I absolutely want her to summon Phoenix-Egi though, I think that could make for a fairly nice climatic revival of someone, she'll probably have to have her brother there too though, for another use of the worlds most impractical book...

    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    Nabriales did it, not Lahabrea
    As far as I'm aware, we don't actually have any confirmation who, but like I said, Nabriales was watching and claimed "Lahabrea will be pleased", that implies it was Lahabreas plan, not his. What's more, Lahabrea did pretty much the same thing with Thordan, then you should also consider the whole "of this world" thing and how that gains Lahabrea and Elidibus additional freedoms that Nabriales and the others lacked at that point in time... Lastly, if you tie Lahabrea back to XII, which his name is definitely referencing, then he should have some association with Ice, and indeed does, based on the ARF battle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    As far as I'm aware, we don't actually have any confirmation who.
    Don't know if it is only in the german version readable this way, as the german grammar does alot more separate female and male than english.

    An example that could be close to this and got hopefully not to wrong translated by Mr Google:

    "I have a mortal shown the ...."

    For the word you would use in german for the "a" in the context of the sentence, we have more than one version: male, female and for "things".

    In the german version, during our small talk with Moenbryda in northern Thanalan, he tells us during his short visit, that he did show a female person how to summon and he was angry, because we did destroy it. This was lorewise not long after we defeated Shiva. So its pretty clear which female person he did mean and he was the one, who showed it to her.
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    Well, seeing Darklander in the East Shroud was a bit of a dead giveaway, looks like they were standing near that spot where the fallen garlean ship things were. So perhaps my Sylphlands dungeon theory might hold up if Thancred and the girl run in that direction only to get cornered by the Twelveswoods and abducted or something.

    Also, since I got around to finishing Midas over the weekend (first saw the fight and said "nope" but realized that I might want a second job and would rather not do a second anima) and now we see the Illuminati gained control of Alex and reversing time around it... so could it mean the barrier might eventually fade and Alex will crawl up and start walking? Or maybe float in mid air like the fortress from Chrono Trigger. Hopefully the final boss of Alexander would be some form of himself, where we take on the larger left arm, right arm, then it's face all outdoors but in some instance. That would be a nice change of scenery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    Well, seeing Darklander in the East Shroud was a bit of a dead giveaway, looks like they were standing near that spot where the fallen garlean ship things were. So perhaps my Sylphlands dungeon theory might hold up if Thancred and the girl run in that direction only to get cornered by the Twelveswoods and abducted or something.

    Also, since I got around to finishing Midas over the weekend (first saw the fight and said "nope" but realized that I might want a second job and would rather not do a second anima) and now we see the Illuminati gained control of Alex and reversing time around it... so could it mean the barrier might eventually fade and Alex will crawl up and start walking? Or maybe float in mid air like the fortress from Chrono Trigger. Hopefully the final boss of Alexander would be some form of himself, where we take on the larger left arm, right arm, then it's face all outdoors but in some instance. That would be a nice change of scenery.
    Based on the rocks hovering above the dome that conveniently resemble the shape of Alexander's head I think it's a safe bet that he'll merely rear up to full height but the dome will remain. The rock formations around that entire area are being used as placeholder colliders. They can change his pose based on story progression so it will look different but the actual traversable area is identical no matter which stage you're on. This ensures that players don't see each other flying through things if they aren't on the same stage of the story.

    As for the fight itself, I'm expecting an Alexander-Prime battle along the lines of Bahamut-Prime when we breach the final core. The time magic concept creates the opportunity for some really creative mechanics though and I'm hoping SE fully capitalises on that. I'd really like to see party members getting sent forward and backward in time to fight in parallel with the different time periods affecting each other. So much potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    As for the fight itself, I'm expecting an Alexander-Prime battle along the lines of Bahamut-Prime when we breach the final core. The time magic concept creates the opportunity for some really creative mechanics though and I'm hoping SE fully capitalises on that. I'd really like to see party members getting sent forward and backward in time to fight in parallel with the different time periods affecting each other. So much potential.
    I hope they do a lot with the time concept... I see no reason we should be stuck with a final mini Alexander Prime boss the same as Bahamut, why not have him go "Nope, I'm done fighting like this, you're going to the future where I've won", then dump us out in an Illuminati-controlled Idyllshire to fight the actual full-sized Alexander... That would make up for the complete lack of threat Alexander has posed thus far, if we actually got sent to the ruins of future-Idyllshire... Then we just beat him in the future (mechanic idea: We knock the Cenotaph over to KO him), climb back in and beat him in the present... Ozma gives me a lot of hope for such mechanics, hurry up and disappoint me, SE...
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