Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 289

Thread: 3.4 speculation

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Cilia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    The Hermit's Hovel
    Posts
    3,772
    Character
    Trpimir Ratyasch
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I usually avoid indulging in this sort of thing, so...

    WARNING! MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF

    AHEAD!

    OK, so we can be reasonably certain 4.0 is taking us to Ala Mhigo. All the stingers have set it up - Elidibus and Urianger talking about Garlemald and the Triad, Yda and Papalymo helping out the Resistance, Ilberd Mysterious Figure, and Darklander and Elidibus in the Shroud. War is coming, folks! War!

    3.4 will be a Garlean offensive. They'll be pushing out of Castrum Oriens, which will be the dungeon for 3.4. Thancred and Alisae will get back to us, the latter of which will tell us of Urianger's dealings with Elidibus. We'll go to confront him, and he'll just say he was heard Elidibus out but thinks he's crazy. However things will still be proceeding as per Elidibus' design (and the Gerun Oracles), and though proving Elidibus wrong would be nice we'll need to keep playing in defense of innocent lives. Darklander & co. will be the ones pushing for the offensive from Garlemald from within.

    3.5 will be a counteroffensive from the Alliance eventually leading us into Ala Mhigo proper. Keeper HM will have nothing to do with Midgardsormr, maybe, but us just trying to stop the Garleans there from setting off a bomb and blowing up Silvertear Lake or summat (which would blow up the world... or summat... since Silvertear seems to be the wellspring of aether for the entire planet). The story will be... a war story. We'll be reunited with Yda and Papalymo, and at their behest as well as knowing the Alliance is gonna do it one way or another enter the fray. The 3.55 trial will be some magitek superweapon.

    While there will be an original story, no doubt, I am nonetheless expecting 4.0 to be somewhat influenced by VI given the Empire's similarities to the Gestahlian Empire and the Triad will evidently have some influence on the MSQ. I'm still expecting a Kefkaesque figure for the 4.0 endboss, though, mostly because I want to fight a long, tough boss fight with the Black Mages mix of Dancing Mad as a backdrop.

    There's still a lot of pieces to move into place, though, so I'm fairly certain this is inaccurate. The Genesis Expression... the Triad... Ilberd... Omega... the Warriors of Darkness... Nero... Regula... too much to fit into a picture when all we have is a rough outline of where things will go.

    Will Yda fall? Will Garlemald get the Genesis Expression? Will Nero reappear and, if so, as a heroic figure? Will SAM have a Vergil-esque combat aesthetic? Will I finish my Guillotine of the Tyrant before Deus Ex: Mankind Divided releases? Will Mighty No. 9 ever be released on the Vita? Will I ever get around to starting that Digimon Tamers Abridged series so I can voice Beelzemon?

    STAY TUNED! You can't be here! Only I can be here! Don't touch me...
    (1)

  2. #2
    Player
    Frederick22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    1,353
    Character
    Frederick Blake
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    kefka-regula
    Lets guess for a sec Regula is our kefka here and he will be the end boss of 4.0 ( Im still that Ilberd will be the main villian on 4.0 )

    How on the seven hells we will have a tower of the gods fight here? You really think they can do a fight on 4 phases where on each phase regula suffers a transformation that puts him closer to godhood?
    Im having my doubts ( My apologies for lack of experienced, i did littile reseach of Vl )
    (0)
    Last edited by Frederick22; 07-13-2016 at 10:35 AM.

  3. #3
    Player
    Morningstar1337's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    3,492
    Character
    Aurora Aura
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Lets guess for a sec for a sec Regula is our kefka here and he will be the end boss of 4.0 ( Im still that Ilberd will be the main villian on 4.0 )

    How on the seven hells we will have a tower of the boss fight here? You really think they can do a fight on 4 phases where on each phase regula suffers a transformation that puts him closer to godhood?
    Im having my doubts ( My apologies for lack of experienced, i did littile reseach of Vl )
    Well there are those statures on top of the flagship. But I feel like the tower aspect might get skipped
    (0)

  4. #4
    Player
    Hinoto-no-Ryuji's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    389
    Character
    Ryuji Hinoto
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Lets guess for a sec Regula is our kefka here and he will be the end boss of 4.0 ( Im still that Ilberd will be the main villian on 4.0 )

    How on the seven hells we will have a tower of the gods fight here? You really think they can do a fight on 4 phases where on each phase regula suffers a transformation that puts him closer to godhood?
    Im having my doubts ( My apologies for lack of experienced, i did littile reseach of Vl )
    ...yes? I don't see why they couldn't. Multi-phase boss fights that involve the boss getting stronger/switching up combat strategies are already a fairly major aspect to the Trials in this game, and that's basically what you're talking about here.

    As for the villain bit, well. Heavensward had more than one antagonist (it had, like, three - four if you count the Garleans). There's no reason why Ilberd AND Regula/Varis/whoever gets Kefka'd couldn't share the spotlight as major storyline bosses.
    (0)
    Last edited by Hinoto-no-Ryuji; 07-13-2016 at 01:11 PM.

  5. #5
    Player
    Tracewood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Bast-- Ul'Dah.
    Posts
    566
    Character
    Eugene Tracewood
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 92
    This talk about Kefka, not talking it down but the thing that made Kefka interesting compared to most villain was that he was a clown... though it was hard to tell back when FFVI was in pixel form, but the Kefka we know now is more of Square's answer to Batman's Joker.

    The villains we have now take themselves far too seriously, but I get what you mean by "The Kefka" in the sense one of them might do something to the warring triad and cause total chaos.

    Only villain that seemed to come close with that clowning personality was Nael in 1.0... and I wished I didn't miss out on that. His flamboyantly playful nature and posing while boasting about his grand scheme. There is Regula that's a little out there, but we don't get to see much of him yet... hopefully his story gets fleshed out more.
    (0)

  6. #6
    Player
    Cilia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    The Hermit's Hovel
    Posts
    3,772
    Character
    Trpimir Ratyasch
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Lets guess for a sec Regula is our kefka here and he will be the end boss of 4.0 ( Im still that Ilberd will be the main villian on 4.0 )

    How on the seven hells we will have a tower of the gods fight here? You really think they can do a fight on 4 phases where on each phase regula suffers a transformation that puts him closer to godhood?
    Im having my doubts ( My apologies for lack of experienced, i did littile reseach of Vl )
    Well, it's not that far-fetched. A6/M2 is already just a boss rush against Bruticus' Brute Justice's limbs; clear one and move onto the next. There's no reason they couldn't employ something similar.

    As for Ilberd, while I do expect to see him again I remain unconvinced he will be a major antagonist. We were at odds when last we met but if this is to be a war for Ala Mhigo's liberation... well, I'm not sure what side of the fence we'll end up on in regards to Ilberd.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    This talk about Kefka, not talking it down but the thing that made Kefka interesting compared to most villain was that he was a clown... though it was hard to tell back when FFVI was in pixel form, but the Kefka we know now is more of Square's answer to Batman's Joker.

    The villains we have now take themselves far too seriously, but I get what you mean by "The Kefka" in the sense one of them might do something to the warring triad and cause total chaos.

    Only villain that seemed to come close with that clowning personality was Nael in 1.0... and I wished I didn't miss out on that. His flamboyantly playful nature and posing while boasting about his grand scheme. There is Regula that's a little out there, but we don't get to see much of him yet... hopefully his story gets fleshed out more.
    That's actually why I'm expecting it though.

    While we only have one case so far, van Darnus' scheme was a reference to Sephiroth but his/her personality was not. Sephiroth is always cold and reserved, while van Darnus was flamboyant and playful. Their personalities couldn't be more different. Likewise Kekfa is silly but psychotic, while van Hydrus is serious and professional - though I would note he has begun to show some signs of cracking after our latest bout.

    To be more direct, I'm not expecting van Hydrus to emulate Kefka 1 for 1 just as van Darnus didn't emulate Sephiroth 1 for 1. Instead I'm expecting him to have some kind of mishap with the Genesis Expression, and for that along with his repeated failures to defeat us and inability to comprehend our viewpoint to cause him to descend into madness. He won't start wearing jester's clothing and lipstick or anything, just go absolutely batshit insane, get coked up on power (i.e. from the Triad), make a floating tower out of the detrius from the Imperial fleet that got wrecked in the Battle of Silvertear Skies, and try to blow everyone and everything to kingdom come with the Light of Judgment (i.e. blowing up Silvertear Lake, which if my hypothesis is correct and it's the wellspring of all aether on Hydaelyn, would outright destroy the world or condemn everything on it to death in a matter of moons).

    All highly hypothetical, of course, and I still can't figure out myriad other puzzle pieces. I deduced that Zodiark was plausibly the moon long before 3.0's stinger or 3.2's verbatim confirmation though... so I'm fairly confident in my hypothesis on this matter.

    As a side note, Kefka's "Joker"-esque personality is only present in the NA/PAL releases of VI; his original JP portrayal was less funny and more moronic. Still, the humor he added to the game resulted in Kefka being miles more popular internationally than he is in Japan, causing SE to keep those personality traits in Kefka even in ports with redone translations.
    (0)
    Last edited by Cilia; 07-14-2016 at 04:46 AM.

  7. #7
    Player
    Nestama's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    4,359
    Character
    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    As for Ilberd, while I do expect to see him again I remain unconvinced he will be a major antagonist. We were at odds when last we met but if this is to be a war for Ala Mhigo's liberation... well, I'm not sure what side of the fence we'll end up on in regards to Ilberd.
    For whatever happens with him, I'm hoping our characters don't forgive him so easily (if at all, preferably).
    (4)

  8. #8
    Player
    Cilia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    The Hermit's Hovel
    Posts
    3,772
    Character
    Trpimir Ratyasch
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    For whatever happens with [Ilberd], I'm hoping our characters don't forgive him so easily (if at all, preferably).
    I won't forgive him! He betrayed us, then dismembered my General, and then goaded him into a fight for shits and giggles!

    ... but that said I don't see him rising to the status of "prominent villain" at the moment. Personal offense aside he's always been pretty small potatoes, so unless someone helps him rise to prominence I'm not too concerned about Ilberd.
    (2)
    Trpimir Ratyasch's Way Status (7.5 - End)
    [ ]LOST [ ]NOT LOST [X]ALREADY MISSING REAL SPHENE
    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

  9. #9
    Player
    Morningstar1337's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    3,492
    Character
    Aurora Aura
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    For whatever happens with him, I'm hoping our characters don't forgive him so easily (if at all, preferably).
    I agree, I have as much chance of forgiving him for attempting to Kill Nanamo and run the Sciosn than I have for Livia for killing Noraxia and kidnapping the Scions (Hint: Its a low as the chances of Allag not being responsible for horrible disasters and being the poster child for Final Fantasy False Utopias)
    (0)

  10. #10
    Player PArcher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    2,580
    Character
    Kytre Ashaer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    For whatever happens with him, I'm hoping our characters don't forgive him so easily (if at all, preferably).
    My character regrets letting him escape Halitali; headcannon is he did worse to her than the story explicitly says. He's basically on "kill on sight" status for her now, unless she absolutely cannot draw her axe on him for whatever reason (or, someone saves him from certain death)
    (1)

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast