I guess it's time

[MagiusNecros]

Subscriptions =/= Active players

A portion of these being bots/RMT spammers.

Another portion being active subscriptions but nonactive players.

And the portion of players who are active.

I don't think we'll be getting accurate data anytime soon. Much less will the dev team share a pie chart separating the 3 factors.

[RiceisNice]

Flying adds a bit of exploration to the areas, and allows them to be as big as they are in heavensward. The problem is...the zones really feels pointless beyond the FATEs. It's underutilized if anything.

[RobbieH]

Was watching Mr Happy stream and he barely reaches 200 viewers these days, he used to get 400 to 300 something daily at lowest some months ago, this could be because people split to other streamers, but it's not the case since the second most viewed channel after Mr Happy right now has 50 viewers.

I guess people lost interest in the game that they don't even watch streams anymore.

3.4 is rumored to be launched 20 September so it competes with WoW Legion.

It seems to me SE just cares and follows WoW everywhere, can we please stop it before it kills the game like Blizzard killed WoW?

I love this game, but it didn't change since 2.0, this is the game i like and want to play, but i found myself doing only hunts for the relic for the past month, i haven't even log at all the past few days, why should i even bother with relic at all if it's worthless even at this point and will be even more useless when 3.4 lunches? Not to mention for 4.0

Absolutely no reason for me to play the game in it's current state, everything we do is worthless every 6 months, i feel like everything is a waste of time, i'd rather have something that lasts based on the work put on it.

I seriously hope they change the formula for 4.0, if not there'll be like 200 people playing the game instead of 200k. :/

My biggest concern is that SE probably doesn't even bother reading English forums, if the JP community doesn't complain about doing the same since 2.0 i guess the game will die with 4.0

[MagiusNecros]

TBH I'm having a lot more fun with GW2 at the moment. The way it handles things in it's framework structure just make more sense to me. That said I find that most of my current interest in XIV atm is sadly forum bickering instead of actually playing XIV mainly because right now there is nothing for me that I want to do.

[RobbieH]

TBH I'm having a lot more fun with GW2 at the moment. The way it handles things in it's framework structure just make more sense to me.

After GW1, GW2 is my third favorite MMO (right after Aion when it was paid).

I have at lest 5k hours in GW2, and around 4k in FFXIV, however a lot of FFXIV hours hve been spent doing nothing, just afk in Limsa lol.

GW1 was so much better than GW2, only thing better in GW2 is the combat, the world is extremely small compared to GW1, as is the FFXIV world when compared to GW2 world.

But GW2 is kinda dead now, a lot of people gave up during Living World and temporary content, and to a lot (just like me) the expansion just wasn't enough.

That said I find that most of my current interest in XIV atm is sadly forum bickering instead of actually playing XIV mainly because right now there is nothing for me that I want to do.

This is exactly what i do, but i'm afraid they only bother with the JP forums so our suggestions here might be worthless. :/

[Braden]

The current formula doesn't work well for some now, but what about newer players that join a year or 2 from now. Why buy ARR and HW when the next expansion is released? The way content is made irrelevant so quickly, why buy a game or expansions that has nothing to currently offer? FFXI still has players doing dynamis, salvage, nyzul isle and einherjar for relics and mythics. And how about the rewards for finishing the main story? A wind up minion. Lol. They missed the boat on jobs as well, there is no flexibility for creativity. Not to mention the gear swapping in 11 is great.

[FizzleofHyperion]

We have had the dose of this FFXIV A WoW Clone Reborn for almost 3 years now to the hardcore community that is a pure flop.
The casual community will continue to love this because it gives them the feel of always beeing able to catch up.

If i wanted to play WoW I would play WoW. FFXIV should have been something unique and continued to use elements from FFXI as it beeing the mothership of SE MMORPG era.

The poll from 4 years ago I think showed the majority of players wanting Horizontal content why SE & Yoshi P didnt listen I guess was mostly because "money > heart of a game?"

Eventually this game will kill itself if it continues this path. It will just be like any other MMORPG out there due to how its build up.

We can all be honest with ourselves here. This game WONT have a lifespan as long as FFXI if its just meant to adapt to a mainstream market of MMORPG jumpers who are only playing FFXIV because its whats "hot" right now.

The game itself does not provide enough content to keep you going that is just facts.

People should not be forced to level different jobs in order for having something to do because the game itself cannot provide enough content to do for their main job.

Capping a currency weekly to obtain gears that are useless so quick will not help anyone. It just teaches you that you can slack and always keep up.

It is a bigger chance of burning a player out than making it fun with how the path of this game is going right now.

Handing out gears from left to right to people just because they have a subscription is only adapting to the player and not forming the actual player after the game telling them if you dont actually devote a little time to acheive something you wont get it either.

Having a gamestyle that teaches gears can get old is just dumb its a hamsterwheel of repetative content with no satisfaction.

This is not a FFXI vs FFXIV convo but instead of using so much elements from everything but actual FFXI playstyle for so many years has showed one type of results maybe its time to go with FFXI type of gaming style from 4.0 and onwards?

Horizontal progression wont kill anyone it will actually make levels and gears feel rewarding instead of a handout.

[Beetle]

This is how it is for most of the time on Hyperion.



Not many people playing the game. I wonder why. By the way im on EST & its the weekend & its prime time for the server.

[Iromi]

This is how it is for most of the time on Hyperion.



Not many people playing the game. I wonder why. By the way im on EST & its the weekend & its prime time for the server.

Same with Sargatanas as well. There is simply nothing to do end game wise Wish they'd actually listen to us.. I miss FFXIV, but if I log in I just kinda stand there and chat because there is nothing for me to do and no content has longevity. /sadness

[FabricioRF]

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Wow, aren't Hyperion and Sargatanas Legacy servers?

By the way, all servers on Aether are currently accepting new characters, except Balmung and Greg ofc.