I guess it's time

[HeavenlyArmed]

The problem is that this game population has been declining since 2.0, 3.3 released a month ago, and yet it's doing very little to keep people interested in the game, and the population is still declining.

You're saying that the game's population has not grown at any point since 2.0? Because that's what "declining since 2.0" means, and pretty much anyone who's been playing since then can tell you how extremely incorrect that statement is.

[RobbieH]

You're saying that the game's population has not grown at any point since 2.0? Because that's what "declining since 2.0" means

No it's not.

Let's say there was a peak of 1m players in 2.0, then in 2.1 it declined to 750K and increased to 850k with 2.4, and declined again with 2.5 to 740k.

There's gains and losses but the total average amount of players is lower than in 2.0, so that's a decline.

pretty much anyone who's been playing since then can tell you how extremely incorrect that statement is.

I must be seeing ghosts then, because all the raiders i knew since 2.0 left and friends list keeps getting smaller online numbers, i wonder what that means.

[HeavenlyArmed]

No it's not.

Let's say there was a peak of 1m players in 2.0, then in 2.1 it declined to 750K and increased to 850k with 2.4, and declined again with 2.5 to 740k.

There's gains and losses but the total average amount of players is lower than in 2.0, so that's a decline.


I must be seeing ghosts then, because all the raiders i knew since 2.0 left and friends list keeps getting smaller online numbers, i wonder what that means.

That's not how the concept of time works. To say something has been happening since X point in time is to say that there has been no point in time since X that it was not happening. In your example, the best you could say is that it has been declining since 2.4. And the second part of what you said technically doesn't prove anything. People leaving the game does not mean the game is declining, for that to happen you need to have more people leaving than coming in, which we frankly have no reliable information on to judge with. I don't deny that the game is currently doing a poor job of retaining its core playerbase, but if there has been no word from SE on the game being in a poor state then the actual numbers likely don't fall too far from the usual trends which would mean that the game is in fact not dying.