I guess it's time

[Dextro]

TFW you realise the average XIV player has had to grind out the same 2 expert dungeons more times per patch than an XI relic holder has ever had to grind out Dynamis

XIV punishes you for not capping out each week, forcing you to play content you don't necessarily want to.
It punishes you for not playing each day, because you'll miss the daily bonus, forcing you to run 2 additional dungeons to make up for the 1 that you missed.

This leads to people wanting to do things(dungeons) as quickly as possible to get it out of the way, which of course leads to frustration and lolforumposts when the players they're paired up with are bad and slow the run down.

So, when you examine things a little closer, a lot of complaints that arise around this game are largely a result of forcing players to milk the same content.

[RiceisNice]

TFW you realise the average XIV player has had to grind out the same 2 expert dungeons more times per patch than an XI relic holder has ever had to grind out Dynamis

XIV punishes you for not capping out each week, forcing you to play content you don't necessarily want to.
It punishes you for not playing each day, because you'll miss the daily bonus, forcing you to run 2 additional dungeons to make up for the 1 that you missed.

This leads to people wanting to do things(dungeons) as quickly as possible to get it out of the way, which of course leads to frustration and lolforumposts when the players they're paired up with are bad and slow the run down.

So, when you examine things a little closer, a lot of complaints that arise around this game are largely a result of forcing players to milk the same content.

Don't confuse "punishing" with "not rewarding".

[KitingGenbu]

Don't confuse "punishing" with "not rewarding".

Would agree. Having a relic in XI far more rewarding than any 'rewards' XIV has put out so far. Not saying that XIV can't put out something, but they need to. If PvP can have exclusive skills, PvE should get the same option, making relics a prime catalyst for that.

[Zojha]

XIV punishes you for not capping out each week[...]

What exactly does this "punishment" entail...? Not being quite as terribly overgeared for every content bar savage...?