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  1. #951
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    Thayos Redblade
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    Boy I wish I was around for 1.0. Probably would have liked it while the game had a heart and soul despite a terrible launch.
    I think it's incredibly easy to look back at 1.x with rose-colored glasses. Yoshi managed to salvage it pretty nicely, especially in regards to the storyline, but man... the game was clunky and boring. At a certain point, I only really played it because I knew the game would be revamped.

    I think the 1.x format had a lot of potential, and with time it could have been grown into a good game. But you really didn't miss anything by not playing 1.x as it was.
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  2. #952
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    And yet something tells me they lost some key staff members with past MMO experience. Like Tanaka. They could have used his expereince in collaboration with a revised team. Instead they pushed him away.
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  3. #953
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    Istaru's Avatar
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    M'telihgo Feilyon
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    And yet something tells me they lost some key staff members with past MMO experience. Like Tanaka. They could have used his expereince in collaboration with a revised team. Instead they pushed him away.
    As much as I may miss certain features from 1.x, my opinion is that he was far too arrogant to accept a co-director or work under a new director. Furthermore, also in my opinion, Yoshida's 1.x was better than Tanaka's.
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  4. #954
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    Odintius Baelsar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thayos View Post
    I think it's incredibly easy to look back at 1.x with rose-colored glasses. Yoshi managed to salvage it pretty nicely, especially in regards to the storyline, but man... the game was clunky and boring. At a certain point, I only really played it because I knew the game would be revamped.

    I think the 1.x format had a lot of potential, and with time it could have been grown into a good game. But you really didn't miss anything by not playing 1.x as it was.
    Miss their actual gear sets bonus and materia system though think most of the problems is the feeling of lack of rewards is just feel bland in comparision /shrug
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  5. #955
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    KitingGenbu's Avatar
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    Alex Carver
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    Since they've been having alot of contest, they should really consider making a content idea contest. Most detailed and interesting type or even a spin/various additions to old/current content kinda wins for the whole community.
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  6. #956
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    Raim Surion
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    I liked back at the end of 1.0 they had those polls to decide changes. I wish we had more say in some of the options so they didn't just wing it with the direction of the game after launch. I like a lot of the stuff posted in the OP and feel like theres way too much focus on dailies, weeklies, and generally time gated content.
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  7. #957
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    Fizzle Abernath
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    I love how people talk as if this was Tanakas fault.
    Anyone who actually followed Tanakas work or got the chance to speak to him on Facebook and FF events knows it was SE decision to rush the game because they wanted something to compete with WoWs expansion.

    If Tanaka had more time this game would have never been FFXIV A WoW Clone Reborn. I love how everyone here is in such complete denial regarding this.

    Again I prefer to play with 1m-2m Loyal FF MMORPG players who understood that FF11 was SEs flagship then running around here with players who think their "toon" is so Kawaii and their silly whispers because this game reminds them so much of WoW.

    Players have explained what they need it its not beeing heard people are giving up on the effort instead. Instead its going backwards.

    People are getting burned out.

    People you guys continously advise to take a break never game back this is facts if you guys only got out of your little bubble you would clearly see this.

    People are still here intentionally giving dumb replies towards the FFXI players who wants something unique. You guys are seriously thinking each person that played FFXI loves waiting 6h for group or liked having weekly lockouts from dynamis etc?
    Give up these silly arguements. Its intentionally arguing when you guys know what the so called "ffxi/hardcore" community really wants.

    We want a game thats unique and has depths. As much as you guys are complaining about not wanting a FFXI 2.0 We dont really want a FFXIV WoW MMORPG either.

    The foundation of this MMORPG franchise IS FFXI and the loyalty of a customer group that never got what they wanted.

    Yes this goes to you Velhart aswell who thinks SE has already done more than enough to the people who saved this game.
    Do you truly beleive that the consumers who kept this game alive by saying OK we will have double subscriptions (the FFXI market) and the others who just came into FF14 with their sub are ok with the 1 dollar discount on the account some silly FFXI mobs and the tramp stamp?
    These players(customers) including myself wanted horizontal progression and they did not want this WoW envoirment (check the previous pulls from years ago).
    Eventhough the horizontal progression won yes beleive it or not the majority voted for this hence 1.23 etc it still did not go that path.

    These are the peoples you guys are saying if you don't like this game quit and play something else? Its because of these people you guys can sit here and complain about your copy pasted WoW MMORPG.

    Want to know something funny aswell for thoese who didnt understand Tanakas work?
    He was clearly planning ahead and imo thats the beauty of SEs MMORPG franchise.
    The graphics FFXIV 1.0 had where meant for computers today could handle and you could see the wonderful graphics.
    This is almost 6 years now most of us have already changed processors graphic cards etc... Clearly some of you cant see something like that when its right under your nose?

    We love SE as a company and we love the FF MMORPG franchise. Or else we wouldnt voice our opinions and really want to be heard.

    I want a change, many do aswell. Even if Yoshi P is understaffed he should really listen to the customer market who actually care about him his team and FFXIV the most.

    Have customers staying here for years or customers buying this game and leaving after 6 months because they went to the next "hot" mmorpg?

    I'm done with this i just finished reading through 30 pages. People are just arguing for the sake of it and thinking everything currently presented is the most epic thing in MMORPG history men this game still has so many flaws.

    Who said change is easy? It wasnt easy during 1.0 to ARR but you can keep everything as it is now just make things harder and not nerf stuff from left to right make things unique and not make gears useless so quick.
    Making a whole game on very easy difficulty but not extreme primals and savage content isnt really the way to go. This is why people can complete a whole patch in 1-2 days and then get back to boredom.
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    Last edited by FizzleofHyperion; 07-15-2016 at 03:49 AM.

  8. #958
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    This game starts to sounds like routine mainly doing daily/weekly.

    The game miss... adventure. I don't know... maybe something like random monsters/treasures/quests on an open map, without special requirement, BiS gear rewards or token rewards. Something absolutly full random. Not even Fate, full random in every ways. Real adventure, nothing really necessary. Some kind on fun appart from the main story. It can sound like treasur maps but in a open map where you don't even know if there will be a monster or not, a pet you can become friend with or a treasure you will discover. Especially nothing critical for craft or fight to avoid blind farm. Random walk with random reward (or danger).
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  9. #959
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    [...]and feel like theres way too much focus on dailies, weeklies, and generally time gated content.
    Sub-based MMOs generally rely on time-gated content as a means of keeping a stranglehold on your subscription. Let players grind and gear as fast as they want and that's just all the sooner they'll unsub. If it's not a time gate, it's a RNG-spawn-and-RNG-droprate lottery a la FFXI.

    I do think there's some room for improving our current boring "weeklies" structure, but ultimately the devs can't just let people with 8+ hours a day to play "gear everything" and then unsub until new gear comes out. Throttling our progression at the pace they do is kind of annoying though, I'll admit. Getting one upgrade a week that doesn't feel vastly different from the previous item I was wearing is a bit dull. I don't play this game for gear progression, thank god, but I can see where it fails to deliver for those who do.
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  10. #960
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by FizzleofHyperion View Post
    I love how people talk as if this was Tanakas fault
    same, when wada came out and admitted he rushed it.

    it sure is easy to sit at one's pc and judge people without knowing the entire story and act entitled. and yea...people need to stop saying we've the "rose glasses" or whatever, i assume that means " tendency to see things in an unrealistic positive light" well...no, sorry I legit enjoyed 1.23b at the end there and I never had so much fun playing a game. I was so excited thinking when they were going to fix the server check lag and give us a lot of content and improve upon it. No weird glasses for me, I had fun and I have tons of videos I made while doing so...

    now I feel like I am playing a chore list for a game. I like how we have a ton of views and activity in this thread with 0 dev reply, and I am waiting for the reasons why nothing can or will change, etc.
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