I guess it's time

[odintius]

Doesn't horizontal make you do the same thing over and over for years? But you know instead...doesn't try to refresh the content? The horizontal enthusiasts try to argue that content becomes stale, but do not say why something that gets even more stale over time is the solution. Even during FFXI, it was an incredible breath of fresh air when ToAU came out, because I would finally be doing something that isn't Dynamis/Limbus/Sky/Sea all the time.

Also, we are currently in a horizontal patch right now. Even number raises the ilvl, odd number patch offers more variety in that ilvl range.

If you like trivial bland gear with boring stats so you can skip a phase of a fight sure, but that not my cup of tea it just zzzzzz and show lack of any depth imo and asking for more from a game isn't a bad thing IMO it add more value to the game IMO not less.

[Velhart]

If you like trivial bland gear with boring stats so you can skip a phase of a fight sure, but that not my cup of tea it just zzzzzz and show lack of any depth imo and asking for more from a game isn't a bad thing IMO it add more value to the game IMO not less.

If so called "bland" helps keep things in check and doesn't result in imbalance in the way FFXI most definitely was, then yes, I will take bland any day. FFXIV's system has a ton more depth than you think. As I said in a previous post, being overly complex in your stats/hot bar does not equal depth. The content itself is the depth.

[odintius]

If so called "bland" helps keep things in check and doesn't result in imbalance in the way FFXI most definitely was, then yes, I will take bland any day. FFXIV's system has a ton more depth than you think. As I said in a previous post, being over complex in your stats/hot bar does not equal depth. The content itself the depth.

It call work that require effort on the part of developers and player feed back, just doing nothing isn't a solution either it being part of the problem. Relying on your previous post does prove anything that's your experience just as mine are. Believe it or not there are different players out there that would argue otherwise of your vision of depth and IMO its pretty boring.

[Velhart]

It call work that require effort on the part of developers and player feed back, just doing nothing isn't a solution either it being part of the problem. Relying on your previous post does prove anything that's your experience just as mine are. Believe it or not there are different players out there that would argue otherwise of your vision of depth and IMO its pretty boring.

If that is how you feel then suggest how to improve the content, not how many bells and whistles you can put on a character. Putting pointless stats on a character isn't going to magically make the game better.

[MagiusNecros]

Putting pointless stats on a character isn't going to magically make the game better.

Yet is that not what the dev team has been doing? Like Parry?

[odintius]

If that is how you feel then suggest how to improve the content, not how many bells and whistles you can put on a character. Putting pointless stats on a character isn't going to magically make the game better.

Suggest clicking my name and find those post, I'm under no obligation to you, your not a developer so that point is mute. Nothing will never magically happen with that attitude if your only suggestion is to do nothing either keep at it though.

[FallenArisen0990]

If that is how you feel then suggest how to improve the content, not how many bells and whistles you can put on a character. Putting pointless stats on a character isn't going to magically make the game better.

You must have that response on Macro because that's the same type of response you always give. When someone does give the response, you try to either ignore the idea and brush over it or defend how you don't want any change whatsoever. You say you played and enjoyed XI and wouldn't mind some stuff from XI. I personally don't believe you. Everything you want, wants to follow XIV's limited, boring, mash buttons, same old same old each patch formula.

There is no point in adding stuff if it doesn't solve the very core issue at hand. You've already contradicted yourself numerous times on these statements.

[Velhart]

Suggest clicking my name and find those post, I'm under no obligation to you, your not a developer so that point is mute. Nothing will never magically happen with that attitude if your only suggestion is to do nothing either keep at it though.

Again, why can't you give a proper reason why? You can keep beating around the bush with me all day, but you have no solid proof it would work for a mass audience, which this game caters to for better or worse. Unless you want to admit the concept heavily caters in favor of a niche audience.

You must have that response on Macro because that's the same type of response you always give. When someone does give the response, you try to either ignore the idea and brush over it or defend how you don't want any change whatsoever. You say you played and enjoyed XI and wouldn't mind some stuff from XI. I personally don't believe you. Everything you want, wants to follow XIV's limited, boring, mash buttons, same old same old each patch formula.

There is no point in adding stuff if it doesn't solve the very core issue at hand. You've already contradicted yourself numerous times on these statements.

Hello pot, have you met kettle? Also, where exactly have I said I don't want FFXIV to change at all or where I said I will completely dismiss every idea from FFXI because it is FFXI? You actually illustrate a previous post I made where I said people arguing with me only see the negative points and determine that is all I am about. Please actually read my posts.

[FallenArisen0990]

Hello pot, have you met kettle? Also, where exactly have I said I don't want FFXIV to change at all or where I said I will completely dismiss every idea from FFXI because it is FFXI? You actually illustrate a previous post I made where I said people arguing with me only see the negative points and determine that is all I am about. Please actually read my posts.

Here's an example. You said you wouldn't mind HNM. You said you want it to follow the guildlines of XIV. That's what Diadem is and look at it now...

[odintius]

Again, why can't you give a proper reason why? You can keep beating around the bush with me all day, but you have no solid proof it would work for a mass audience, which this game caters to for better or worse. Unless you want to admit the concept heavily caters in favor of a niche audience.

Because your the type of person who sits back waiting for responds and casually dismiss people suggestions it actual easy in your postion honestly of the topic because your not giving you own suggestions, besides the lets do nothing, unless you want to admit your own concept are heavily caters in favor of keeping a average content that on a hampster wheel. Again I have posted suggestion have no obligation to you my name is right there to click do some work if want answers.