I guess it's time

[Alaltus]

I came back sometime recently and my free company has hollowed out with just 5-7 active players left, the leader citing lack of content each patch as his reason for not coming back and /randoming lead to another fc member. He's playing granblue fantasy now apparently. It didn't take long before i was back to the F2P esque repeat everyday incentives model from 2.0. Only now they've expanded it into every facet of the game x.x battle content, gathering, crafting, daily quests. I'm hoping deep dungeons will keep me going as i loved Nyzul isle in XI, it's excruciating waiting for it to come out.

[RiceisNice]

I feel like the real problem with 3.0 is that they hyped it up too much.

This is the big thing for me as well. With things like new jobs (in comparison to the fact that we got ninja during the 2.x series), MCH (and by the same context, BRD) feels like a shell-out of what htye had intially previewed. FC crafting is anything but, and in general the expansion itself hasn't set a lot of framework that allows for better implementation. Airship exploration has been beaten enough, we still don't have much of FC activties, and things like summoner glamours and GC rank expansions have been put in back burners for quite a while now (looking at 3.4 which is over half the expansion's timeframe)

[Yasuhiro]

Would people be against the dev team coming out and saying "Enough with the holy trinity, we don't need to copy WoW 100% this is a Final Fantasy game"
And then they added to it so we have Tanks, Healers, DPS and support classes! I always thought the game would be better and maybe have a bit more depth if hypothetically party set up was like this
1/1/1/1

1 Tank = Paladin
1 Healer = White Mage
1 DPS = Dragoon
1 Support = Time Mage

or would be now be hearing stuff like "Time Mages shouldn't DPS!" ???
The game would have to undergo lots of coding and balancing so it will never happen most likely but I always assumed the 4 party dungeons were a little nod to how party set up was in the older games where you would have a healer and a support class with you.

[RiceisNice]

Would people be against the dev team coming out and saying "Enough with the holy trinity, we don't need to copy WoW 100% this is a Final Fantasy game"

The problem with having a support role is that they;d have to redo the entire dungeon/party system to include it. It's way too small of a party pool espesically with how many dps we have now. The moment you introduce jobs that are support oriented with relatively much weaker dps abilities, it becomes an issue where they're either too weak to justify a party slot, too good to not have one in your party, or taking away a party slot from the queue and significantly increase match-up timers.

[Yasuhiro]

yah it's what I mentioned in the other parts I'm content with keeping it as is but adding in more hybrid jobs like Bard. (I never played Bard but people say it's a hybrid job) I suppose proposing a what if scenario would be best life if it was like it from the start.

[ADVSS]

they could just up mob damage/hp by a tiny bit and add support to the party make up. so itd still be a tank/healer/melee/ranged/support thing is a single support job being added would maybe make queues even longer after the first few weeks when everyones got the new new levelled and either ditch it or go level with something else

[Terribad]

I ask the same thing as well. Since rerelease I've lost entire guilds and so many friends.

The game is just too easy and simple so people lose interest. They also kill content so fast that people give up on gearing up because as soon as they're done the gear is dead. Yes mmos are a gear treadmill however, no mmo kills off it's gear this fast.

This game is also really restrictive, you can't really play how you want. You have to play how the devs want, you have to do quests, you have to use these stats, you have to use this set, etc.

I'm only here because Aion is full of BRs and the crafting in Blade and Soul is horrible.

[Mimilu]

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Two things:
1) AST is practically Time Mage.
2) Wouldn't the addition of a Support role downplay AST, BRD, and MCH's supports' importance? I mean, they could shift BRD and MCH to Support, but then we would loose both our Physical Ranged DPS, while AST is too set in as a Healer to change.

[Razard]

Ok, the underlying questions to this support class nonsense. What can a support class provide that you can't just put on another role and be done with it?

Also, if their support is all they have, there's a balancing issue, if the support is less than 1 dps class then it will be a leper. If it does more, it's a requirement and needs to be entirely balanced around. If it's the same or equivalent, then it is pointless.

[FallenArisen0990]

Thing is, I can't see this game getting any better even with PS3 support dropped. Unless they are secretly developing a second version of XIV. I mean they refuse to give us little things like an HD textures.