I guess it's time

[Braden]

Again your reading comprehension is coming into question. We were talking about being able to simplify a job that are actual more in depth than what appears only for the sake of argument, not saying FFXIV or FFXI had simple job mechanics. If you have trouble understanding that, please read it about five or so more times and maybe it will click for you then.

Yes it was with BLM. Thunder 4 had the highest magic burst potency when used after a skill chain. Did you ever even play BLM or work together with them on skillchains? This definitely changed in future expansions, but this was the go to mechanic for HNM's, especially Kirin comes to mind during Zilart/CoP expansion era.

The reading comprehension thing man. Never said the jobs were pointless and completely non-usable. I said midcore/hardcore parties did not want certain jobs at all until SE either gave them a ridiculous buff that made groups not want other jobs, or gimp a job so much they rather take what was once weaker. Seriously, did you even explore how the community dealt with things outside your own LS? People not wanting to take jobs in because they were not efficient enough or brought little to nothing was an absolute common thing. How many Beastmasters were in people's parties?

I don't blow this out of my ass, these were definitely things that happened in the game and most LS's did not bring jobs that were not wanted. Even in EXP parties, jobs like PLD were not brought to colibri parties in Aht Urghan unless there was absolutely no one else to invite. There are certain jobs I never got leveled at the time just because groups would not invite them. Good for you that you had the LS where they welcomed much less efficient jobs, but people who were very serious and hardcore with end game did not bring them in and only brought jobs that could get the content done as fast and efficient as possible, because getting anything done in that game took a good chunk of your night away.

I have most jobs capped at 99. Blm, whm, rdm, brd, pld, nin, mnk, thf, drg, blu, sam, war, bst, rng. And yeah I was aware of the community. We finished all the endgame content the game had up until the final expansion. Most of us were together since Na pc release. We parsed often.

Again, for the third time thunder 4 is not the best blm spell.

You shouldn't come off so condescendingly, it sounds a lot like those wanna be elitists.