I guess it's time

[odintius]

Doesn't horizontal make you do the same thing over and over for years? But you know instead...doesn't try to refresh the content? The horizontal enthusiasts try to argue that content becomes stale, but do not say why something that gets even more stale over time is the solution. Even during FFXI, it was an incredible breath of fresh air when ToAU came out, because I would finally be doing something that isn't Dynamis/Limbus/Sky/Sea all the time.

Also, we are currently in a horizontal patch right now. Even number raises the ilvl, odd number patch offers more variety in that ilvl range.

If you like trivial bland gear with boring stats so you can skip a phase of a fight sure, but that not my cup of tea it just zzzzzz and show lack of any depth imo and asking for more from a game isn't a bad thing IMO it add more value to the game IMO not less.