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    Quote Originally Posted by FizzleofHyperion View Post

    Want to know something funny aswell for thoese who didnt understand Tanakas work?
    He was clearly planning ahead and imo thats the beauty of SEs MMORPG franchise.
    The graphics FFXIV 1.0 had where meant for computers today could handle and you could see the wonderful graphics.
    Honestly on the input of game graphics and presentation, it's a bit absurd for a flower pot to have the same (if not more) polygons as a player model. At best, it's misplaced; even my current rig (which ran me about 1.3k and it's only a year old) with a nvidia 970 would probably have problems running 1.0 at max settings. All of that comes at the cost of having a lively open world; instead you'd get barrened landscapes with tunnels. Lots of tunnels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Honestly on the input of game graphics and presentation, it's a bit absurd for a flower pot to have the same (if not more) polygons as a player model. At best, it's misplaced; even my current rig (which ran me about 1.3k and it's only a year old) with a nvidia 970 would probably have problems running 1.0 at max settings. All of that comes at the cost of having a lively open world; instead you'd get barrened landscapes with tunnels. Lots of tunnels.

    didn't have a problem running at full settings with my 3 5870's at the time also wasn't this posted on reddit ====> "a bit absurd for a flower pot to have the same (if not more) polygons as a player model"

    if 1.x still continued to this day i'm sure running it with my 2 290X cards wouldn't be a problem. Getting 144FPS in dungeons and about 80 plus in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    didn't have a problem running at full settings with my 3 5870's at the time also wasn't this posted on reddit ====> "a bit absurd for a flower pot to have the same (if not more) polygons as a player model"

    if 1.x still continued to this day i'm sure running it with my 2 290X cards wouldn't be a problem. Getting 144FPS in dungeons and about 80 plus in the world.
    I didn't take it from reddit, but it's frequently cited, even by the developers themselves in a presentation. .

    And even then if you can run it, just how much does your rig cost? The very high requirements diminishes the amount of players that can reasonably enjoy the game's presentation. The game felt overly ambitious in what it wanted to do and lost sight of the important factors, and I feel like they're rounding about into the same problem with the heavensward updates (Diadem, PvP in general, etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    I didn't take it from reddit, but it's frequently cited, even by the developers themselves in a presentation. .

    And even then if you can run it, just how much does your rig cost? The very high requirements diminishes the amount of players that can reasonably enjoy the game's presentation. The game felt overly ambitious in what it wanted to do and lost sight of the important factors, and I feel like they're rounding about into the same problem with the heavensward updates (Diadem, PvP in general, etc)

    I bought 3 290x cards for $500 each but only use 2.
    $500 or $600 for the CPU
    $200 (maybe less was a long time ago) for the 16GB memory
    power supply cant remember bought a long time ago 1200w 4xultra
    whole liquid cooling setup with case total about $600 maybe less
    msi z97 gaming 7 mother board $200 for got to add <===== (edit)
    so total of $2000 (with one card) $2500 (with 2 cards) I think maybe more like $3200 (with 3 cards)

    playing this on 1 card full settings works fine as well. I like to play windowed boarder less so i can surf the net with ease.
    with one card i get about 50 to 80 in cities/world. dungeons are 60+ stays around 80+ when i was fighting (just tested it out)
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    This game starts to sounds like routine mainly doing daily/weekly.

    The game miss... adventure. I don't know... maybe something like random monsters/treasures/quests on an open map, without special requirement, BiS gear rewards or token rewards. Something absolutly full random. Not even Fate, full random in every ways. Real adventure, nothing really necessary. Some kind on fun appart from the main story. It can sound like treasur maps but in a open map where you don't even know if there will be a monster or not, a pet you can become friend with or a treasure you will discover. Especially nothing critical for craft or fight to avoid blind farm. Random walk with random reward (or danger).
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    Please scroll up and check the full reply instead I was editing
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    Quote Originally Posted by FizzleofHyperion View Post
    Please scroll up and check the full reply instead I was editing
    Oh, if you mean me, I agree with your post 100%. Tanaka got blamed entirely and ignorant players are quick to blame him (not you) instead of knowing the full story, IE how Wada rushed the game out..etc.

    Poor Tanaka..he tried very hard and his entire career was at SE, and then well..you saw what happened to him and how people love to blame and hate on the guy. Sure, he has made mistakes, but we all have.

    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    didn't have a problem running at full settings with my 3 5870's at the time also wasn't this posted on reddit ====> "a bit absurd for a flower pot to have the same (if not more) polygons as a player model"

    if 1.x still continued to this day i'm sure running it with my 2 290X cards wouldn't be a problem. Getting 144FPS in dungeons and about 80 plus in the world.
    Same, the only lag I had was from the server checks that "prevented cheating" where the server had to finish one action before allowing us to do another.
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    Poor Tanaka..he tried very hard and his entire career was at SE, and then well..you saw what happened to him and how people love to blame and hate on the guy. Sure, he has made mistakes, but we all have.
    Too bad it worked only once. Now everyone is blaming Yoshida for all wrong decisions, which he actually made and keeps making. And dev team still keeps silence. I don't know what must happen for us to get some kind of reply at last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vantol View Post
    Too bad it worked only once. Now everyone is blaming Yoshida for all wrong decisions, which he actually made and keeps making. And dev team still keeps silence. I don't know what must happen for us to get some kind of reply at last.
    I wonder if it's because Yoshidas so called "wrong decisions" (lol) didn't almost single handedly sink the entire company and turned the entire franchise into a punchline for years.

    Oh wait, that was Tanakas 1.0. ^^ Keep living in denial though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    I wonder if it's because Yoshidas so called "wrong decisions" (lol) didn't almost single handedly sink the entire company and turned the entire franchise into a punchline for years.

    Oh wait, that was Tanakas 1.0. ^^ Keep living in denial though.
    As I have said, financial success doesn't mean the game is anyhow good, even if millions play it. Just like game that "almost single handedly sink the entire company" can be actually a masterpiece.

    So, keep living in denial you too.
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