I guess it's time

[Vantol]

I don't feel like digging through the rest of these 20 pages to see if its said, but a vast majority of these suggestions would break the game and make it incredibly bad. Like, I can't believe people actually think this is a good idea sort of bad.

What is dead may never die.

No, really, I fully agree with RobbieH - it's either they implement major changes by 4.0 or FFXIV is done for good.

P.S. I read every post here. In whole thread there are currently 4 (maybe 5?) people, who disagree and say that game is allright the way it is.

[ZorySantill]

What is dead may never die.

No, really, I fully agree with RobbieH - it's either they implement major changes by 4.0 or FFXIV is done for good.

P.S. I read every post here. In whole thread there are currently 4 (maybe 5?) people, who disagree and say that game is allright the way it is.

I love these posts... FFXIV is pretty much dead and done for good, that's why its still on the upswing from last reports, and why FanFest tickets sold out in hours. And by the way, more than half those changes would kill the game, or just plain don't make sense. I could break down almost every single one of them if you want, but that seems like a lot of work tbh.

[MagiusNecros]

I'll agree. If 4.0 doesn't change the framework structure of how the game has been for 2 cycles then I'll have to drop it.

[Iromi]

I'll agree. If 4.0 doesn't change the framework structure of how the game has been for 2 cycles then I'll have to drop it.

Yeah same, I am barely playing as it is now...but if 4.0 is the same exact formula I will drop it forever.

[MagiusNecros]

Yeah same, I am barely playing as it is now...but if 4.0 is the same exact formula I will drop it forever.

Only jumping back in for 3.35 so I can deep dungeon with my friends. I wasn't here at 2.0 launch but I did follow the game closely as a FF fan and being a FF fan I am deeprooted in the classic DnD traditions they pulled from since the dawn of FF1 on the Famicom and slowly but surely I have come to realize this is less a FF game then it is a flat MMO game. So depending on 4.0's structure I'll probably play the through 4.0 and then unsub permanently.

I mean if I don't like it I can play a real FF game right? My friends had fun with Guild Wars 2 so maybe I can have fun with that. It'll just take me time to get used to a MMO with no controller support.

[Ryel]

I mean if I don't like it I can play a real FF game right? My friends had fun with Guild Wars 2 so maybe I can have fun with that. It'll just take me time to get used to a MMO with no controller support.

You can play it with a controller actually it just takes a bit of messing with to do so, that's how i played it and mained Mesmer and Ranger in both PvE and PvP.

a quick google search should find you a few guides

[RobbieH]

Only jumping back in for 3.35 so I can deep dungeon with my friends.

Something is telling me Deep Dungeon will fail too, just like Diadem it's a new kind of content, but everything else remains the same.

Once people get their weapon they will stop doing DD and it will die.

New content that died fast after it released:

- Gold Saucer
- Triple Triad
- Diadem
- Lord of Verminion
- The Feast
- Aquapolis

Deep Dungeon will join the list soon enough after it releases, i'm sure of it.

[SendohJin]

New content that died fast after it released:

- Aquapolis

Deep Dungeon will join the list soon enough after it releases, i'm sure of it.

Aquapolis died? that's news to me.

[Iromi]

Only jumping back in for 3.35 so I can deep dungeon with my friends. I wasn't here at 2.0 launch but I did follow the game closely as a FF fan and being a FF fan I am deeprooted in the classic DnD traditions they pulled from since the dawn of FF1 on the Famicom and slowly but surely I have come to realize this is less a FF game then it is a flat MMO game. So depending on 4.0's structure I'll probably play the through 4.0 and then unsub permanently.

I mean if I don't like it I can play a real FF game right? My friends had fun with Guild Wars 2 so maybe I can have fun with that. It'll just take me time to get used to a MMO with no controller support.

Yup same here! If the reward is more useless glamour and it can be beaten quickly with no longevity...well then, rip my account till 4.0 lol.

[Claymore65]

Yup same here! If the reward is more useless glamour and it can be beaten quickly with no longevity...well then, rip my account till 4.0 lol.

I think the intent of Deep Dungeon's "longevity" lies not in its rewards, but it's ability to be repeated. We have content that can't be overgeared or overlevelled (since only your Deep Dungeon levels/gear applies and you can even reset those), has randomized floors and enemy layouts to increase replayability, and offers a decent reward for quicker gearing up and (I assume) a decent amount of EXP. The clear design of goal of Deep Dungeon is for it to be fun, and not really concerned with rewards. It looks to be made as a fun side-activity where you can tackle dungeons alone or with some friends. Personally, that sounds great to me, but I have to wait and see what it's actually like in game.