I guess it's time

[Razard]

Ok, the underlying questions to this support class nonsense. What can a support class provide that you can't just put on another role and be done with it?

Also, if their support is all they have, there's a balancing issue, if the support is less than 1 dps class then it will be a leper. If it does more, it's a requirement and needs to be entirely balanced around. If it's the same or equivalent, then it is pointless.

[ADVSS]

Ok, the underlying questions to this support class nonsense. What can a support class provide that you can't just put on another role and be done with it?

Also, if their support is all they have, there's a balancing issue, if the support is less than 1 dps class then it will be a leper. If it does more, it's a requirement and needs to be entirely balanced around. If it's the same or equivalent, then it is pointless.

if they define "support" as bard/mch/newjob" then itll be a low tier but decent dps. Then they just jack the raids to be like gordias anyway, and or nerf healers damage output because like tanks - "theyre not a D_S.!!!!" They could do it in tons of ways, not justifying that they should, just examples. Itd be incredibly difficult to carry through story as a job that relies other characters to deal its damage, you wouldnt get through story if it was

[RiceisNice]

if they define "support" as bard/mch/newjob" then itll be a low tier but decent dps. Then they just jack the raids to be like gordias anyway, and or nerf healers damage output because like tanks - "theyre not a D_S.!!!!" They could do it in tons of ways, not justifying that they should, just examples. Itd be incredibly difficult to carry through story as a job that relies other characters to deal its damage, you wouldnt get through story if it was

Their dps isn't that far back behind though, and even then they're far from the only jobs that arguably have party support abilties. Not to mention on record developers have attributed BRD's relatively lower dps to their "support" (which is double dipping anyway since use of said support already lowers their damage to begin with) or their mobility (with this being their recent statement). It's gotten to the point that it's not worth putting out a support label because I feel that even the developers don't know what they truly want BRD (and MCH) to be, beyond the game objectively labeling them as a dps role.

[FallenArisen0990]

Thing is, I can't see this game getting any better even with PS3 support dropped. Unless they are secretly developing a second version of XIV. I mean they refuse to give us little things like an HD textures.

[Yasuhiro]

Didn't think of it that way actually. Guess the holy trinity is fine as in then since everything is playing the support role. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Iromi]

Didn't think of it that way actually. Guess the holy trinity is fine as in then since everything is playing the support role. Thanks for clearing that up.

Lol everything is playing support and DD...fun! But not really XD This is the only MMORPG I've played that has no support dedicated class...annnnd support is my favorite.

Don't get me started on the "pet" class >.< Oh well, I guess people enjoy having every job feel sameish...heh, my main is SMN and I've had all my jobs maxed since 2011..however I finally took a lot of them to 60, MNK feels like a melee SMN, and war feels a bit like SMN in some ways too...anyway, everything feels the same to me. Not really diggin it. I know..they'll never change it and add a true pet class because "outdated" etc or some astonishing logic.

[Iromi]

Shoot..where are our working alliances in diadem? lol Whenever I take my FC in there with 3 ships we all sit there in different parties like a buncha fools. Can't share loot, credit or anything. That is NOT an alliance.

[RiceisNice]

Shoot..where are our working alliances in diadem? lol Whenever I take my FC in there with 3 ships we all sit there in different parties like a buncha fools. Can't share loot, credit or anything. That is NOT an alliance.

Same place as FC alliances, it got ganked by roaming primals.

[Braden]

If SE doesn't shake things up a bit, they will have the same subscription loss that FFXI had. They are making the same mistake of being too casual, as XI was too hard core. I think they should cut out the ilvl system, to keep better gear relevant for longer. If I had it my way, I would delete the word raid from content. They should mimic XI's endgame style and content, to create delayed gratification and longevity. They need to take a break from 4, 8, and 24 man instances. Also remove the cap on tomes and use tome gear as a base or bottom line to clear story content/exp. Tomes are basically participation trophies, you shouldn't be able to get near the best gear by doing 4 man dungeons X amount of times.

[Genaxx]

My sub runs out in 2 days and i've cancelled the renewal. GW2 sounds interesting i'll go try that.