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    People keep comparing 11 to 14 but despite what 11 may have done better, 14 has had up to triple the subscribers in far less time. So the reason they're reluctant to change anything is because it works to the casual player & gets them more money. Even now in this lull of the odd 3.0 patch it has almost double the subs 11 has ever had at one time. This is the sad truth. But some of the reason is probably bc FF has become more mainstream. I don't play mmos but I do play FF so they snagged me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    People keep comparing 11 to 14 but despite what 11 may have done better, 14 has had up to triple the subscribers in far less time. So the reason they're reluctant to change anything is because it works to the casual player & gets them more money. Even now in this lull of the odd 3.0 patch it has almost double the subs 11 has ever had at one time. This is the sad truth. But some of the reason is probably bc FF has become more mainstream. I don't play mmos but I do play FF so they snagged me.
    Well, another reason is that MMOs are more mainstream now too and also more widely accepted. Look back at the time when XI was just coming out. If you even remotely mentioned you played MMOs then, there was a pretty high chance that no one around you played them and more often than not, quite a number of people would just laugh at you for it. Now these days, a much larger portion of the population plays MMOs and they're usually seen as something for everyone and not just "something nerds do thats uncool". I can pretty much guarantee that if it was still like that, XIV would have a far lower population.

    Also, going off various things, the population of XIV(about 500k-600kish) is about the same ish as what XI had at its peak, maybe 100k more. Don't go off of the "4 million accounts", because a majority of those are unactives that are still counted, people who paid months in advanced but quit, RMT etc.

    And as other people have said before, XIV can't retain subs. It doesn't help that everything is instanced, cross server, so you never really make the lasting friendships that you did in XI, which can keep people playing too. I used to have a pretty decent sized friendslist back in 2.0. Only 2 of those ever log on anymore.
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    Last edited by Obysuca; 06-28-2016 at 01:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    People keep comparing 11 to 14 but despite what 11 may have done better, 14 has had up to triple the subscribers in far less time.
    A lot more people have internet these days, you can't really compare the games that way.
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    If they ever get rid of the rotation system, it would fix a lot of issues with combat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    If they ever get rid of the rotation system, it would fix a lot of issues with combat.
    Not really, depending on what you're trying to correct. It's a bit ingrained on top of existing mechanics that you need a flowing combat/rotation to make it work in both functionality and balance.
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    I was told not to touch this thread, so naturally it now must be touched.
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    I like how FFXI BLM has an actual spell list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    I like how FFXI BLM has an actual spell list.
    I like how it actually had CC and used it ; ;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I like how it actually had CC and used it ; ;
    That's because CC worked on most of the bosses in XI (at least, back in the day, no clue about the current end-game). >w>
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    Guys, I must spesk the true... XI was just a better game in the long run...
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