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    Enable Extended Crossbars and get rid of all your DPS macros. Everyone is better off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    Enable Extended Crossbars and get rid of all your DPS macros. Everyone is better off.
    So. . . DO add more buttons to possibly trip over (who hasn't had a moment when they fumbled around their own UI/button/skill/rotation sequence?) or keep Misery's End/Assassinate/Heartbreak on its own slot rather than setup a (well made) macro that uses it as soon as, and when most readily possible?

    I mean, I'm trying to understand how the macro (no one knows I've used FOREVER now) that has effectively finished off many an adversary (especially in PvP) with a well timed skill use at its earliest possible chance has been so bad so far?
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  3. 01-13-2017 08:07 AM

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    No. Just no. Please never ever do that.
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  5. 01-13-2017 09:57 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingkoz View Post
    You say no never do that but you are probably one of these forum math junkies who barely ever puts abilities into actual practice
    Well, it isn't hard to use it on either Aeolian Edge or Armor Crush, both of which would be better. I can see that it can be tricky to always use it with Aeolian Edge in an actual fight when you also have to provide the slashing debuff for your party and have downtime, but shadow fang? Uhm...that just seems like a waste.

    I personally start off with Suiton - SE - Jug - GS - Kassatsu - AE/DE, depending - B4B - SE - Int Release - SF - Trick Attack - Muti - Raiton/Fuma - SE - DWD - GS - Duality - AE - Mug. From then on, it depends on the fight! I can comfortably alternate DE and AC combo while keeping up my DoTs and use the rest more or less on CD, but sometimes, I might hold abilities a bit for burst phases. Even on a Plasma Shield where you can only hit the front, though, it's better to use Duality on Dancing Edge or even Armor Crush than Shadow Fang. You got 10 seconds after Trick Attack hits, so that fits 4 GCD abilities and 4 OGCD abilities without troubles. I don't see why you wouldn't use it on "any" of the 3 combo finishers instead, all of which are a better choice even without hitting the positional (even more so if you do).
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  7. 01-14-2017 01:39 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingkoz View Post
    Who even cares its negligable amount of dps from duality its all just flashy ohhahh numbers and another button to press
    The practical usage instead of the math is the ability to push out more damage upfront which is needed in most fights if you're wanting to be called a good player. Also if you want to be even thought of as someone that knows anything, instead of just saying random shit, post proof of it no one is going to take you seriously without it and with ff logs being so simple to use that's easy.
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    Both skills are fine. Duality may seem boring to you but it is pretty useful for your dps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Duality makes only sense if its used for AE because of the potency. If you like it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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