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  1. #51
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I didn't find it that bad to be honest, didnt really do any serious grinding, tried the alexander grind, hated it, so just stuck with pretty much roulette and beast tribe dailies. Now with just that I manage to get 2 done by the time the next step come out, each taking about a little over a month to complete. These weapons are meant to be drawn out and tedious, completely optional and not for everyone if you dont have the time, patience, and sometimes sanity, then this is just not for you. They gave us about 3 months, between 3.15 and 3.25 to get at least one completed before that next step, and if you're finding that difficult to achieve, then this weapon is just beyond you as harsh as that sounds. Now if you really want these weapons then just hold and and the steps will "eventually" be nerfed, but keep in mind you will be in pretty much the same spot cause there will still be more steps.
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  2. #52
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Misha_Snow View Post
    I think they forced too much on the tomestones with this relic, the previous one at least had those "light grinding" portions and the books.
    1. I skipped the crystal grind because i had few Zetas
    2. The dungeon part i actually enjoyed it
    3. The 80 + 16 HQ is a mindless grind and imho not worth the 10 ilvls
    4. The oil step wasn't a big problem since i was still grinding the 80 items, in few weeks i obtained them with the weekly crystal tower quests and finished it before the step 3
    5. In the last update i like that they give you a lot of options for the sands but still... that umbrite locked behind yet another tomestone grind

    The fact that the last 3 steps require large amounts of same type of tomestones imho is a major turn down, if i enjoyed a content i would do it again like with the old relic, but it's not the case with this one, also working on more than one relic at time is counterproductive =/
    At least at this stage the previous version was fun kill x mobs, kill Chimera, Hard primals and Hydra. Now that was fun and probably took same amount of time as collecting 20 items. This was locked behind a time sync but least it was fun and rewarding nothing about Anima is classed as rewarding. I don't even know why they even bother making any quests for it just make each stage collect 100k lore. They could of used diadem, weeping city, deep dungeon, Midas, Aquapolis hell even hildy fights to make it interesting.
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  3. #53
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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasasmo View Post
    Oh, excuse me but not all people are like you who have no life and nothing to do.
    Many of us barely have time to do the Daily Roulettes.
    MMORPGs are time consuming genre of games.
    Deal with it.

    EDIT:
    By the way relic quest isn't meant to be hard, it is meant to be grindy. There is tomestone weapon, grind weapon and hard-obtainable weapon (raid).
    Even Yoshi said (2-3 Live Letters ago) that relic is grindy alternative to other weapons that is supposed to be a bit behind raid weapon and is supposed to take some time to get.
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    Last edited by StrejdaTom; 06-23-2016 at 05:21 PM.

  4. #54
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    At least at this stage the previous version was fun kill x mobs, kill Chimera, Hard primals and Hydra.
    Yeah love that about the old relic, plus it felt more like an achievement when you got it after doing all those. I guess they moved away from that to better differ they ways you get weapons now, so like;
    Savage Raid = heavy skill+time
    Anima = no skill+heavy time
    Primal EX = skill+no time
    Tomestone = balance
    I am however liking that they are at least giving us different options to complete these step, but really wish they would do something else other than tomestones grinds, dont mind the grind but its very very boring. They should at least toss a few tests/fights in this, if they dont want skill based then they dont need to be difficult, it can just be story based or something of that sort...
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  5. #55
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Yeah love that about the old relic, plus it felt more like an achievement when you got it after doing all those. I guess they moved away from that to better differ they ways you get weapons now, so like;
    Savage Raid = heavy skill+time
    Anima = no skill+heavy time
    Primal EX = skill+no time
    Tomestone = balance
    I am however liking that they are at least giving us different options to complete these step, but really wish they would do something else other than tomestones grinds, dont mind the grind but its very very boring. They should at least toss a few tests/fights in this, if they dont want skill based then they dont need to be difficult, it can just be story based or something of that sort...
    Tomestone is still locked behind 7 weeks of A8 kills and still requires some skill. Lost count at the amount of times I have watched someone run away with the AOE marker. When you compare that with Anima which can be done in 8 weeks for a lesser stage.

    SE said they wanted to make it easy for casuals, but when the tome weapon which is for casuals is harder than the Anima then I'm sorry they screwed up.
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    Last edited by Masekase_Hurricane; 06-23-2016 at 06:03 PM.

  6. #56
    Player
    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Tomestone is still locked behind 7 weeks of A8 kills and still requires some skill.
    I suppose so but its still one of those "eventually" you'll get the weapon, and to be honest kind of expected them to have added another way or eased up on getting that high capacity tomestone by now. That and unidentified, things actually feel a bit late with these kinds of nerfs, I wonder why...
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  7. #57
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius-Khan View Post
    They should have left the gil portion out of it mos def.
    spending gil is optional to speed it up if you don' have leveled up a crafter yet.
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  8. #58
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    Cheshire Puss
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    Coeurl
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasasmo View Post
    This step of the Anima Relic quest is too hard!
    Many people can\\'t login and play the game for hours, let alone do that kind of grind every single day.
    The tomestones required to obtain unidentified items is way over the top, It takes forever to get them. We need 680 tomes per item and we need 20x for 4 items, the price should be halved at least.
    Not all players can play everyday and do all this grind.
    The next steps are there too so it would be really great if this quest gets some balancing.
    Thank You!
    I'd have loved to see your reaction to the requirements for the first relic weapon, prior to all of the nerfs done to its requirements. This is as close to a cake walk as I could get with this in comparison.
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  9. #59
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasasmo View Post
    Oh, excuse me but not all people are like you who have no life and nothing to do.
    Many of us barely have time to do the Daily Roulettes.
    I like the way you assume raiders have no life. You know lots of raiders log in and raid for a few hours a week, since thats what they enjoy and thats what they have time for.

    Back to relic, its not designed for everyone. There also isnt a time limit on it, you can complete it however you like in what ever time period suits you. There are lore weapons there for those with less time than is needed to commit to relic.
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  10. #60
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    16bitBounty's Avatar
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    Alyssin Kiger
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I've been working on it for over 2 months now. Still not even close.
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