"Coming into its own" is too much!

[madolyn]

Took me 2 weeks to get all the 80 items by just doing beast tribes and dailies and logging off.)

yeah calling BS on that, lol.

[Khalithar]

There is never any middle ground with you people, it's either a mind numbing grind or they just give it away.

This is a great post and it bears repeating.

[madolyn]

There is never any middle ground with you people, it's either a mind numbing grind or they just give it away.

I'm not someone who wants it right now and handed to me. I am fine with doing stuff every day and working towards a goal...

however at this point, it would have been good to maybe lower item cost through tomes from 680 to maybe 350 or 400 instead of nerfing a pointless portion (crystals). From the initial release, would it really have been "handed to you" if it was 10 of each item instead of 20? still take a month or more for most people to complete. It's just excessive and punishing for some people...especially those that felt 2.0 beast tribes were boring or pointless thus limiting their options.

[The_Last_Dragoon]

Took me 2 weeks to get all the 80 items by just doing beast tribes and dailies and logging off.

With 2 weeks of play time you can only get 12 items through beast quests, which means it would have taken roughly 23,120 Esoterics and Poetics tomes in order to fill out the remaining 68 items. Even if you did every economical roulette for the bonus (Main Scenario, Trial, Leveling, 50, & 60) that would only net you with 4.760 bonus Eso and 2,640 bonus Poetics, which is a far cry from the amount you would need. It would be more realistic if you said 2 months instead of 2 weeks.

[Rius]

I don't have much of a problem with the unidentifiable items. It's the crafting items that stumped me.

[DevilsDontFly]

Please keep in mind that while:

Many of us barely have time to do the Daily Roulettes.

The majority of us have. On the long run they shouldn't nerf it as a whole for the sake of a very, very, very, very small percentage of players that "barely have time to do the daily roulettes". If you can't play 2 hours a day regardless of the day (including the weekend), doing one of the most grindy optional quests in the game might not be aimed at you.

And please, don't assume people that can achieve something you can't have no life or nothing to do; everyone has their own routine and daily struggles. The fact you got time to make this thread makes you a "no life" just like me and everyone else here.

[Sirius-Khan]

They should have left the gil portion out of it mos def.

[seekified]

You think getting the relic takes a long time? The alternative to the relic quest is doing Savage raiding, and that, my friends, is a timesink if ever there was one.

The relics are intended as a means for less "hardcore" players to obtain high-level weaponry. It is a walk in the park compared to reaching, clearing and farming A8S, even if the time investment is significant.

The minimum-effort way to an i240 weapon is logging in once a week to clear A8N for seven weeks so you can get the Lore weapon.

[LadyKairi]

To be fair, running stuff that gives esoteric's isn't hard and doesn't require much more effort than logging in and being bored for hours.

Though I agree with your reply, I'd like to point out that Brighton was using sarcasm.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I agree, why make the best weapon in the game so hard to obtain? Just give it to everyone practically for free so they don't have to put any effort into it and can enjoy their awesome weapons, because everyone's special and deserves better treatment.

First it's not the best weapon savage weapons are better. Secondly I don't class grinding as hard content it is just lazy content made by the devs.