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  1. #31
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    NaesakiAshwell's Avatar
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    Naesaki Ashwell
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    The real question is... why is the ilvl200-210 step so hard when ilvl210 weapons are so easy to get from tomes? Total of 80 unidentifieds and 16 crafted items to get something equal to spending some tomes and 1 run of void ark to upgrade.

    It makes no sense to me, the current sought after stage (ilvl230/240) should be the difficulty stage to work on. Not the stage that is mindnumbingly easy to get elsewhere.
    Granted by the time you finish the 210 step, the majority of people will have the aether oils to instantly complete the 230 step
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  2. #32
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    kuma_aus's Avatar
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    Paca Kuma
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    Chocobo
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    White Mage Lv 100
    There are many people who can only play 3-4 days in a week who've already gotten their 210. In fact I'm pretty sure since it's been months that there would be people who could log in 1-2 days in a week that managed to get their 210 already. It's not a hard step, you earn the items as you play the game the way you want to play it.

    If you think the step is too hard, wait for the nerf that comes in 3.4 or whenever Yoshida decides to implement one.
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  3. #33
    Player Judah_Brandt's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Judah Brandt
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    It was indirectly nerfed by the increase in Tomestones yield and the addition of two Beast Tribes that provide the items. I don't quite know that we'll see additional softening of the step until it's pretty late in the patch season.
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  4. #34
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    I'm still on the 210 step for a number of reasons: disinterest (largely), not attempting to grind the unidentifiable items (and with even less gil/desire to pursue the crafts), the stats on the MCH relic were less favorable than other weapons I'd rather work/clear harder content for, and I didn't even like the look of it, so glamour wasn't even an option.

    Sitting at 18/19/20/20, with no crafts, all the oils, and slowly starting to get Umbrites cause there's nothing else to do with Esos. . . By the time I might actually complete this, it'll be time for the next relic, and I'm only doing this one because I had promised to give it a fair chance.

    I have yet to be motivated or inspired to even WANT a relic, present or future.
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  5. #35
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    Seraphix2407's Avatar
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    Arawn Wymer
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    Omega
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Trixxy View Post
    Savage Midas is too hard!
    Many people can't login and raid for hours, let alone do that kind of progression everyday.
    The mechanics you're required to memorize are way over the top, It takes forever to learn them. We need to clear 4 difficult instances every week for a chance at receiving our weapon or 8 midas manifesto, the difficulty should be halved at least.
    Not all players can raid everyday and do this progression.
    The next chapter of Alexander will be there in 3.4 as well so it would be really great if this raid gets some premature balancing.
    Thank you!
    I see what you did there.
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  6. #36
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    Rawrz's Avatar
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    If you want the relic. Grind it out. The 210 stage is still relevant to the grind. The effects of the difficulty are cumulative. You can use your i230s instead of your i200. In that sense the grind is slightly nerfed. I don't see them directly nerfing anything until 4.0.

    EDIT: if they were going to nerf something about it, I would decrease the number of Alex normals needed, since the content is less relevant now and harder to solo queue.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 06-23-2016 at 07:35 AM.

  7. #37
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    ServerCollaps's Avatar
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasasmo View Post
    Not all players can play everyday and do all this grind.
    dont play freakin mmos, if you have no time for those...
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  8. #38
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    ToasterMan's Avatar
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    Yui Oshima
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    Mateus
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    Blacksmith Lv 60
    There's not much point in the relic besides glamor. It's gonna be obsolete by the time you finish it anyway so what's the point? I told Gerolt to screw off this time around and it was the best decision I ever made
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  9. #39
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    EdwinLi's Avatar
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    Edwin Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    If you want the relic. Grind it out. The 210 stage is still relevant to the grind. The effects of the difficulty are cumulative. You can use your i230s instead of your i200. In that sense the grind is slightly nerfed. I don't see them directly nerfing anything until 4.0.

    EDIT: if they were going to nerf something about it, I would decrease the number of Alex normals needed, since the content is less relevant now and harder to solo queue.
    It would be better to reduce the amount cost for all methods instead by half.

    farming 680 tomes right now is a bit lighter compared to 10 Alex normal runs per day which is why Alex is not run alot.
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  11. #40
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    The_Last_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Renabi Rena
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Worry not, as 3.35 will undoubtedly "Coming into it's Own." Though I'm currently unsure whether it's going to be because they're going to introduce new tomes, or if they're just going to make it so that they exchange 1 for 1 for all of the Precision items you can get from A1-4.
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