"Coming into its own" is too much!

[odie]

I'm a casual. I only get on for a bit at a time most of the time due to work, family, etc. It has taken me a long time to get the items. But I don't feel that they need to make it easier. Like others have said...you can just go get a totally different weapon. Run EX primals, buy one with tomes in Idyllshire. Not all of the content should be made easy. I started the relic from the first day they let us start them. I'm still finishing my unidentifieds. I have 5 left to go.

To be honest, I think this relic is way better than the last one. I'm not on the step to get my aether oils yet, but that didn't stop me from running the crystal tower dungeons throughout the week to get them. You can do any step of the relic regardless of what step you are on...I like that. It makes it much easier to obtain over the last one. It's fine how it is.

[Iromi]

Oh, excuse me but not all people are like you who have no life and nothing to do.
Many of us barely have time to do the Daily Roulettes.

Hm. I am an actress (line memorizing, filming etc.) BF is a full time student at nyu tandon. we both have multiple finished relics. By no means do we have "no life"

We also have done the raids. Doing stuff in game does not require you to live on the game...you just need better time management skills lol. Why play a MMORPG if you "barely have time to do daily roulettes"? Serious question. I would never touch a game or anything if my time was -that- limited..let alone a MMORPG.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

The relics are not meant to be...easy.

Actually, the relic IS the easy option. But for that same reason, it's the long one.

Look around the forums and you'll see the relic gets no love from me at all, but I'm aware it was meant to be a long, easy road to something good, for those who lack the time/skill/desire to do more challenging content. Now, numbers show that even those who do have what it takes get relics anyways, but the relic largely remains both an equalizer among players, and a catalyst for sustaining/reviving older content. I frown upon it, openly and loudly, but I'm aware of its necessity, personal feelings aside.

But let's stop kidding ourselves about the relic not being "easy". The last time it was not easy, we had to fight the HM Primals fpr it, and people largely hated the challenge. Others thought it was TOO easy (those who had the skill/desire that is). For that reason and more, we all got a series of grinds.

[RLofOBFL]

I don't mind doing stuff like that, but man, day 1 atma is way easier than this, I've gotten my old relics without complaining because they were ok! They didn't require me to play and grind for hours and finish a single step in 2 months.
The costs for the unidentified items are a bit too much compared to other items you can get from ESTO

The old relics used to be insane as well until they were nerfed into oblivion. I do think the cost is steep but it IS for the best weapon in the game so why should it be easy to get?

[MeeDeggiThePunisher]

I agree, why make the best weapon in the game so hard to obtain? Just give it to everyone practically for free so they don't have to put any effort into it and can enjoy their awesome weapons, because everyone's special and deserves better treatment.

There is never any middle ground with you people, it's either a mind numbing grind or they just give it away.

[Kaurie]

I agree, why make the best weapon in the game so hard to obtain? Just give it to everyone practically for free so they don't have to put any effort into it and can enjoy their awesome weapons, because everyone's special and deserves better treatment.

To be fair, running stuff that gives esoteric's isn't hard and doesn't require much more effort than logging in and being bored for hours.

[loreleidiangelo]

I will admit, I'm surprised this step didn't see any ease in difficulty with 3.3, considering that the reward is a fairly outdated 210 weapon and the step after it, bizarrely enough, is almost laughably easy to complete. I can't really say it bugs me, as I'm almost done mine and will work on another if I get bored enough, but I won't deny that it's surprising.

[MagiusNecros]

3 month grind to 230 or 3 hour grind over 7 weeks for a Lore weapon with accrued 1000 Lore.

It's easy to see why the Lore weapon will be favored more for casuals over the casual grind weapon.

[TankHunter678]

The real question is... why is the ilvl200-210 step so hard when ilvl210 weapons are so easy to get from tomes? Total of 80 unidentifieds and 16 crafted items to get something equal to spending some tomes and 1 run of void ark to upgrade.

It makes no sense to me, the current sought after stage (ilvl230/240) should be the difficulty stage to work on. Not the stage that is mindnumbingly easy to get elsewhere.

[Judah_Brandt]

The step isn't hard. And when it was released, it was just an option. Remember how the other i210 weapon was locked behind Savage Gordias until they added the Gobdip as an exchange option for the Void Ark token? Yeah? Cool. It's just an option. It makes complete sense in correlation to when it was released. And again, there are now TWELVE WAYS to get the items. Even before you could literally get it done pretty quickly just by doing Hunts as they gave Poetics, Esoterica, and Seals. So, uh. It isn't hard. It just takes a while. Time does not equal difficulty. The difficult option is the i240 Midan weapon. Savage Midas is hard. Using in game currency you get for completing just about ANY content is easy.